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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2002 #531



I seem to be getting multiple copies of Digest #531. Is anyone else
suffering this problem?
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On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 14:17, debian-user-digest-request@lists.debian.org
wrote:
> Subject: No Subject
> Date: 16 Jul 2002 14:32:55 -0400
> 
> debian-user-digest Digest                              Volume 2002 : Issue 531
> 
> Today's Topics:
>   Re: getting sound started             [ Kent West <westk@nicanor.acu.edu> ]
>   Re: Ext3 or XFS (or none)?            [ Dave Carrigan <dave@rudedog.org> ]
>   Re: Installing Debian onto a machine  [ David P James <dpjames@rogers.com> ]
>   Re: SuSE and grub                     [ ben <benfoley@rcn.com> ]
>   Re: Laptop mounting nfs               [ Keith O'Connell <keith_oconnell@blu ]
>   Woody DVD                             [ "Leonardo Custodio" <coldwater@uol. ]
>   Re: Ext3 or XFS (or none)?            [ Vineet Kumar <debian-user@virtual.d ]
>   getting experimental .deb's           [ David Wright <ichbin@shadlen.org> ]
>   Re: Console mode issues [SOLVED]      [ James Hughes <jhughes@kos.net> ]
>   Re: getting experimental .deb's       [ ben <benfoley@rcn.com> ]
>   Re: daemon vs. savelog ???            [ "Michael D. Schleif" <mds@helices.o ]
>   Re: Ext3 or XFS (or none)?            [ "nate" <debian-user@aphroland.org> ]
>   Re: getting experimental .deb's       [ Stephen Gran <gashuffer09@comcast.n ]
>   Re: daemon vs. savelog ???            [ "nate" <debian-user@aphroland.org> ]
>   Re: daemon vs. savelog ???            [ Derrick 'dman' Hudson <dman@dman.dd ]
>   Re: getting experimental .deb's       [ David Wright <ichbin@shadlen.org> ]
>   Getting rid of MS-win                 [ Robert Ian Smit <robian@wanadoo.nl> ]
>   ext3 over nfs - can't get rw!         [ Jonathan Matthews <jaycee@jaycee.uk ]
>   smp, debian and me                    [ "G. L. `Griz' Inabnit" <griz@outcas ]
>   Re: getting experimental .deb's       [ Travis Crump <pretzalz@techhouse.or ]
>   ISTE en ucuz reklam yontemi           [ ANTISPAM@murphy.debian.org ]
>   Re: Getting rid of MS-win             [ "AlienSprite" <aliensprite@uol.com. ]
>   Re: getting experimental .deb's       [ Stephen Gran <gashuffer09@comcast.n ]
>   Re: Getting rid of MS-win             [ "G. L. `Griz' Inabnit" <griz@outcas ]
>   Re: apache2 upgrade: is it easy?      [ Derrick 'dman' Hudson <dman@dman.dd ]
>   Re: getting experimental .deb's       [ Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> ]
>   Re: What are framebuffer devices goo  [ Derrick 'dman' Hudson <dman@dman.dd ]
>   Re: CONGRATULATIONS                   [ Derrick 'dman' Hudson <dman@dman.dd ]
>   apache2 config question               [ John Gruenenfelder <johng@bach.as.a ]
>   Antigen found HTML.MimeExploit.Klez   [ Antigen@murphy.debian.org ]
>   Antigen found HTML.MimeExploit.Klez   [ Antigen@murphy.debian.org ]
>   Re: Evolution and attachments         [ Alwyn Schoeman <alwyn@smart.com.ph> ]
>   Re: Evolution and attachments solved  [ Alwyn Schoeman <alwyn@smart.com.ph> ]
>   Re: Evolution and attachments Solved  [ Alwyn Schoeman <alwyn@smart.com.ph> ]
>   Repost: help configuring nut for Bel  [ Richard Cobbe <cobbe@airmail.net> ]
>   Re: PCMCIA network card with woody i  [ Shawn Dunn <sfalken@dumpsterdivers. ]
>   autologin?                            [ Dan Jacobson <jidanni@dman.ddts.net ]
>   Re: Getting rid of MS-win             [ Larry Smith <doccpu@yahoo.com> ]
>   Re: autologin?                        [ "nate" <debian-user@aphroland.org> ]
>   Re: Ext3 or XFS (or none)?            [ "nate" <debian-user@aphroland.org> ]
>   usb-storage and ORB castlewood zip d  [ Elaine Tsiang <et@ihear.com> ]
>   Woody - setting PATH                  [ Crispin Wellington <crispin@aeonlin ]
>   Re: ISTE en ucuz reklam yontemi <- I  [ John <johnpf@atnet.net.au> ]
>   Re: ISTE en ucuz reklam yontemi <- I  [ Daniel Freedman <freedman@physics.c ]
>   Re: autologin?                        [ Hubert Chan <hubert@uhoreg.ca> ]
>   Game Theater XP                       [ Reid Gilman <blueplazma@attbi.com> ]
>   Re: Game Theater XP                   [ Jeremy Turner <jeremy.turner@oc.edu ]
>   Re: Woody - setting PATH              [ Tom Cook <tom.cook@adelaide.edu.au> ]
>   ipmasq: losing packets for a while a  [ Daniel Barclay <dsb@smart.net> ]
>   Re: Game Theater XP                   [ Jamin W.Collins <jcollins@asgardsre ]
>   Re: ISTE en ucuz reklam yontemi <- I  [ Pollywog <croak@shadypond.com> ]
>   Re: Woody - setting PATH              [ Crispin Wellington <crispin@aeonlin ]
>   Re: Woody - setting PATH              [ Tom Cook <tom.cook@adelaide.edu.au> ]
>   Re: ext3 over nfs - can't get rw!     [ Crispin Wellington <crispin@aeonlin ]
>   Re: PCMCIA network card with woody i  [ Seneca <seneca-cunningham@rogers.co ]
>   Re: Game Theater XP                   [ Jamin W.Collins <jcollins@asgardsre ]
>   redirect mail for a virtual domain(w  [ Shri Shrikumar <shri@vitalstate.co. ]
>   Re: Woody - setting PATH              [ Crispin Wellington <crispin@aeonlin ]
>   Re: Ext3 or XFS (or none)?            [ Osamu Aoki <debian@aokiconsulting.c ]
>   Re: Assigning a virtual ip address t  [ Osamu Aoki <debian@aokiconsulting.c ]
>   request for help with lilo on testin  [ Andy Halper <ashalper@earthlink.net ]
>   Re: request for help with lilo on te  [ Tom Cook <tom.cook@adelaide.edu.au> ]
> ----
> 

> From: Dan Gapinski <support@qsi-r2.com>
> To: Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: [OT] Installing LILO
> Date: 16 Jul 2002 11:26:58 -0500
> 
> Are you using a 486 or less? I had a configuration like this and could not
> handle installing LILO on a hard drive greater than 520 MB. I ended up using
> a boot disk and then got a smaller hard drive to handle booting.
> 
> Is that your configuration too?
> My best,
> Dan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pietro Cagnoni" <pcagnoni@mclink.net>
> To: "Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder" <avbidder@fortytwo.ch>
> Cc: "Debian-User" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [OT] Installing LILO
> 
> 
> Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote:
> > Yo!
> >
> > Sorry for asking here - but I'm not aware of a dedicated forum on LILO,
> > and this is what I read...
> >
> > What I'm trying to do:
> >
> > run Linux (Debian, of course :-) on hda, install linux on hdc, move hdc
> > on another box (where it will be hda).
> >
> > I'm quite up to speed with everything, but I can't get LILO installed on
> > hdc (which has a completely different geometry than hda) so that it will
> > boot if it's accessed as hda in the other box.
> >
> > anybody?
> >
> > (If it's something that can esily be done with another bootloader, no
> > problem. LILO is just what I know good enough to do most things).
> >
> > cheers
> > -- vbi
> >
> 
> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/LILO.html - chapter 4
> 
> pietro.
> 
> 
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> From: Richard Otte <otte@cats.ucsc.edu>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: xine stops playing dvds
> Date: 16 Jul 2002 09:24:42 -0700
> 
> I checked with my son (who has tried to use it more than me), and he
> says it doesn't stop at the chapters.  To view a DVD he had to
> repeatedly go to the scene selections menu on the dvd and start up at a
> chapter, but he would usually then miss something, or repeat material.
> Nice guess though.  
> 
> Ric
> 
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 05:32:44PM +0200, Andrew Fowler wrote:
> > 
> > Just a guess:  If it stops at the same place every time, could it be
> > that it's just reached the end of the chapter ?! Can't remember what to
> > do about it though (don't us Xine anymore).
> > 
> > Andz
> > 
> 
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> From: Jamin W.Collins <jcollins@asgardsrealm.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Exim and Hotmail not getting along
> Date: 16 Jul 2002 11:37:15 -0500
> 
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:17:22 -0500 Benjamin Pharr <ben@benpharr.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > I'm getting lots of messages like this in /var/log/exim/mainlog:
> (snip)
> > 2002-07-16 11:08:41 16zmOO-0006h1-00 mx11.hotmail.com [64.4.49.199]:
> > Connection refused
> 
> Can you telnet to the above IP (or any of the others listed for hotmail)
> on port 25 from your mail server?
> 
> > 2002-07-16 11:08:41 16zmOO-0006h1-00 failed to open database lock file
> > /var/spool/exim/db/retry.lockfile: Permission denied (euid=8 egid=8)
> > 
> > Can anybody tell me what's going on? 
> 
> I'm making an absolute guess, based just on the error message, but what
> are the permissions on the /var/spool/exim/db/retry.lockfile?  Looks like
> uid 8 and gid 8 (which on my system are both "mail") are not allowed
> access to the given file.
> 
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> From: Oohara Yuuma <oohara@libra.interq.or.jp>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Cc: oohara@libra.interq.or.jp
> Subject: Re: AVI
> Date: 17 Jul 2002 00:00:20 +0900
> 
> On 16 Jul 2002 16:10:19 +0100,
> Shri Shrikumar <shri@urbyte.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2002-07-14 at 14:16, Tom Allison wrote:
> > > What package views AVI movies?
> > Mplayer is very good and plays and huge number of codecs if you
> > configure it properly. All the instructions are on their website.
> I use avifile-player.
> 
> Package: avifile-player
> Priority: extra
> Section: graphics
> Installed-Size: 331
> Maintainer: Zdenek Kabelac <kabi@debian.org>
> Architecture: i386
> Source: avifile
> Version: 0.7.7.20020524-1
> Depends: libavifile0.7 (>= 0.7.7.20020524-1), libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libqt2-mt (>=3:2.3.1-1), libsdl1.2debian (>> 1.2.3), libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), xlibs (>> 4.1.0)
> Suggests: avifile-mad-plugin, avifile-mjpeg-plugin, avifile-vorbis-plugin, avifile-win32-plugin, avifile-xvid-plugin
> Filename: pool/main/a/avifile/avifile-player_0.7.7.20020524-1_i386.deb
> Size: 106150
> MD5sum: dbae3da9c316985adda010d571abf51e
> Description: Video player for AVI/ASF/WMF files
>  Player for various AVI, ASF, WFM (with streaming support) files.
>  Separate local instalation of Windows DLL codecs might be needed
>  for the optimal usage of this player.
>  See README.debian for more information.
> 
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> From: Stephan Seitz <nur-ab-sal@gmx.de>
> To: Debian-Eng-ML <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Xine, ogle and chapter/track jumps
> Date: 16 Jul 2002 18:56:20 +0200
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I have some questions about the dvd player xine.
> 
> How can I jump between chapters or tracks in xine?
> The dvdnav plugin seems to allow only chapter jumps, and even that
> doesn't always work.
> The d5d plugin should have navigation features, but how do I activate
> them? Xine plays DVDs well as long as I don't want to skip chapters or
> tracks.
> 
> Ogle can do this, but it misses some nice xine features like hide gui,
> the display of chapter and track number, or volume control.
> 
> My wish would be a combination of both programs.
> 
> xine: 0.9.12-1
> d5d: 0.2.7
> ogle: 0.8.4-1
> 
> Any hints are welcome.
> 
> Shade and sweet water!
> 
> 	Stephan
> 
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> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Offer advanced arcylic bathtub
> Date: 17 Jul 2002 01:10:14 +0800
> 
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> From: Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar@debian.org>
> To: Erik Mathisen <erik@mathisen.us>
> Cc: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: Webmin problems
> Date: 16 Jul 2002 13:16:40 -0400
> 
> On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Erik Mathisen wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I installed webmin from the unstable branch.  I am trying to configure
> > it to work using apache.
> 
> I've always been meaning to try this out but never got around to it.
> 
> >  I went to the webmin page and there were
> > some directions on how to do this.  I tried to follow them, but came
> > up with a problem.  It wanted me to change the perl path to
> > /usr/bin/perl -U.
> >
> 
> Yikes I don't like the sound of that.  And they want you to make all the
> scripts setuid?  I would think hard about the security implications of
> this especially if your server is accessible from the Internet.
> 
> > They gave a find argument to do this, but it required the file
> > perlpath.pl. The webmin did not install this, so I went to the
> > packages page, and looked up to see what package perlpath.pl was in.
> > it is supposedly in all of the webmin packages, but there is not a
> > perlpath.pl on my system.  This does not make any sense to me.  Can
> > anyone offer up any suggestions as to why?  I am out of ideas.
> >
> 
> Yeah, perlpath.pl is in all the source packages but I didn't install it
> into the binary packages because it isn't something end-users typically
> need.  (Unless they are doing something like you are of course.)
> 
> You can grab perlpath.pl from one of the source packages or this should
> do the same thing
> 
> find /usr/share/webmin -name "*.cgi" -o -name "*.pl" | xargs perl -pe 's|/usr/bin/perl|/usr/bin/perl -U|;'
> 
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> From: Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar@debian.org>
> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: wu-imapd issues
> Date: 16 Jul 2002 13:21:58 -0400
> 
> On 14 Jul 2002, Peter Snoblin wrote:
> 
> > I am trying to get wu-imapd to allow access to mail retrieved with
> > fetchmail.
> 
> It's _uw_-imapd by the way.
> 
> >Unfortunately, there really isn't any documentation available for
> > wu-imapd,
> 
> There is but not in the most obvious of places.  imapd is just a frontend
> to the c-client library so a lot of the docs are in
> /usr/share/doc/libc-client2001
> 
> >  as it is supposed to "just work."
> 
> It does! :)
> 
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> 
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> From: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>
> To: Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: ratio of male vs. female debian users
> Date: 16 Jul 2002 13:29:52 -0400
> 
> Oleg wrote:
> > Do African Americans use Linux?
> 
> Er, what do you think? Hint: you probably just pissed off a lot of
> debian developers, if they happened to see that remark. We have
> developers from most modern (and some not so) countries and all major
> (and some not so) ethnicities and our user base is probably even more
> diverse. I won't even go into sexual orientations, religions, political
> preferences, etc.
> 
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> From: Taegil Noh <nayas@nlps4.knu.ac.kr>
> To: Debianusers Mailing List holder <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: galeon gconf schema error
> Date: 17 Jul 2002 02:25:22 +0900
> 
> After some trying, I've found a solution. (well, at least for me)
> 
> after upgrading (or adding) gconf2, (I don't know why) Galeon was not able
> to find its schema file. Clean uninstall (not minus -, but underbar _)
> of galeon
> on dselect, and installing it again, just solved the problem for me.
> 
> some nasty bug of supporting both gconf/gconf2? I don't know...
> 
> 
> 
> Taegil Noh wrote:
> 
> >After an dselect-upgrade, it seems that something with gconf/galeon
> >went wrong.
> >
> >A clean start of Galeon (first use, ) it seems that galeon searches for
> >default gconf schema. At this stage, galeon fails with error
> >
> >"cannot find a schema for galeon preferences. Check your gconf
> >setup, look at galeon FAQ for more info"
> >
> >----
> >
> >It looks like that gconf is working (checked it with gconf editor),
> >but it does not finds galeon schema xml file.
> >
> >But there is a file named galeon.schema in
> >/etc/gconf/schemas.
> >
> >----
> >
> >Unstable, current version of galeon and gconf, gconf2.
> >
> >Any suggestions?
> >
> >thanks.
> >
> >nayas.
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
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> From: reply@to.group.please
> To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: ispell stopped working today?
> Date: 16 Jul 2002 12:12:54 -0500
> 
> Hello
> 
> When I logged in today and tryed to use the spell checker in kmail 
> (and all other programs that call ispell)I got this error message:
> 
> ISPELL could not be started
> Please make sure you have ispell properly configured and in your path.
> 
> Has this recently happened to anyone else?  All other users on the 
> system can use the spell checker.  and /usr/bin/ (where ispell is ) 
> is in the path.  
> 
> Thanks for any pointers.
> 
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> From: p <pplaw@pcisys.net>
> To: Kent West <westk@acu.edu>
> Cc: Debian-User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: OT: Digital camera, SanDisk, and Debian
> Date: 16 Jul 2002 17:35:43 +0000
> 
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 12:04:37AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> > Off-topic, but who better to ask than you folks?
> > 
> > I'm interesting in getting a digital camera. I figure the 2.x Megapixel 
> > $200-$300 variety will be fine for my needs. I know next to nothing 
> > about these little critters.
> > 
> > I stopped in at Circuit City the other day and learned that there appear 
> > to be three basic types of storage medium: Compact Flash (CF), Smart 
> > Media (SM), and Memory Stick. The guy I talked to said that Memory Stick 
> > was Sony's, and was proprietary. If that's true, that pretty much turned 
> > me off of Sony cameras.
> > 
> > Whereas I'd like to plug the camera directly into my Debian box (2.4 
> > kernels, Sid), I'm not opposed to getting a card reader of some sort. I 
> > saw a SanDisk ImageMate for $30 that reads both CF and SM cards. Sounds 
> > like a pretty good deal.
> > 
> > Before I take the plunge, does anyone want to weigh in with their 
> > opinion as to what to avoid, what to get, what to watch out for, etc? 
> > I'd appreciate the input.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > Kent
> > 
> //
> 
> i took the plunge with a kodak dx3700 (3.1 megapixels),
> a compact flash card, and a card reader.  everything
> works nicely; and with the card reader, i don't have
> to worry about finding software that will interface
> with the camera.  it was a no-brainer.
> 
> good luck.
> 
> b.
> 
> // 
> 
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> From: Carlos Sousa <csousa@tvtel.pt>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: X freezes!
> Date: 16 Jul 2002 18:40:01 +0100
> 
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:38:39 -0300 Marcelo Chiapparini <chiappa@uerj.br>
> wrote:
> 
> > On 2002.07.16 12:12 David Z Maze wrote:
> > > Marcelo Chiapparini <chiappa@uerj.br> writes:
> > > > I am running woody + gnome 1.4 in an Athlon system. Sometimes,
> > > > while working, X freezes and the only way to get the system back
> > > > is rebooting ;(.
> > ...
> > May be there is a log file I can read?
> 
> Check /var/log/XFree86.0.log, also your ~/xsession-errors.
> 
> I had/have a similar problem, and I'm convinced it is caused by X's
> graphics driver for my ATI card, and the crashes were caused by GL
> rendering.
> 
> I manage to get a stable system by not using GL screensavers and staying
> away from GL graphics software and games. I *really* hope X 4.2 can
> address this issue...
> 
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> From: ben <benfoley@rcn.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: ratio of male vs. female debian users
> Date: 16 Jul 2002 10:55:20 -0700
> 
> On Tuesday 16 July 2002 10:29 am, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Oleg wrote:
> > > Do African Americans use Linux?
> >
> > Er, what do you think? Hint: you probably just pissed off a lot of
> > debian developers, if they happened to see that remark. We have
> > developers from most modern (and some not so) countries and all major
> > (and some not so) ethnicities and our user base is probably even more
> > diverse. I won't even go into sexual orientations, religions, political
> > preferences, etc.
> 
> thanks, joey, for the apt interjection here. this thread was really starting 
> to creep me out.
> 
> ben
> 
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> From: Walter Tautz <wtautz@math.uwaterloo.ca>
> To: Chris Halls <chris.halls@gmx.de>
> Cc: Debian OpenOffice <debian-openoffice@lists.debian.org>, debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: should we be using unstable or testing openoffice...testing causes install problems see body
> Date: 16 Jul 2002 14:05:06 -0400
> 
> I have the entry:
> 
> deb http://ftp.openoffice.tuxfamily.org/openoffice testing main contrib
> 
> And I'm running testing plus I have the entry
> APT::Default-Release "testing";
> 
> and apt-get install openoffice.org failed (see below) and yet
> on another testing box I have the same configuration and
> it worked without problem. Perhaps because I had somehow previously
> install libgcc1 version 1:3.1 ... 
> 
> 
> 
> # apt-get --fix-missing install openoffice.org
> 
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> 
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   openoffice.org-bin: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:3.1) but 1:3.0.4-7 is to be
>   installed
> 
> 
> So I did a apt-get -t unstable libgcc1 to get it to put in the newer
> version from unstable and then apt-get install openoffice.org worked.
> 
> So the above link is not a truly representive of a testing release. I guess
> this is related to the fact that openoffice is built with gcc3.x.x?
> 
> Question: Should we just point to the unstable distribution of openoffice
> instead?
> 
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> From: Chris Halls <chris.halls@gmx.de>
> To: Debian OpenOffice <debian-openoffice@lists.debian.org>, debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: should we be using unstable or testing openoffice...testing causes install problems see body
> Date: 16 Jul 2002 20:12:44 +0200
> 
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 02:05:06PM -0400, Walter Tautz wrote:
> > So the above link is not a truly representive of a testing release. I guess
> > this is related to the fact that openoffice is built with gcc3.x.x?
> > 
> > Question: Should we just point to the unstable distribution of openoffice
> > instead?
> 
> I tried to explain this in my announcement:
> 
>  - Not exactly equivalent to the current testing/Woody in the Debian
>    archives - these packages are still compiled on sid systems, although I
>    try to make it easy to install on a Woody machine by mirroring the
>    packages from sid that are needed (currently libgcc1 and possibly
>    libfreetype6 in the near future).  If we get round to explicitly
>    compiling packages on Woody systems, they will end up in a 'woody'
>    aptable source.
> 
> The difference is not one of 'this is compiled on distro X', but the
> difference between packages that are known to be reasonably good, and those
> which are not yet ready.  The issues with the 1.0.1rcX packages are:
> 
>  - A libstlport problem with PPC
>  - Dependency problems (it is possible to mix 1.0.0 and 1.0.1 packages)
>  - Unpopular default user install directory
>  - We expect the real 1.0.1 announce in the next day or two.
> 
> The problem you had with libgcc1 and our mirrors is odd, becuase I have not
> changed anything at all - in fact all I did was rename the 'unstable'
> directory to 'testing' and generated a new 'unstable'.
> 
> Chris
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