Re: Configuring mod_perl on Debian
On Tue, 28 May 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 08:14:26 -0400
> From: Ian D. Stewart <idstewart@compuvative.com>
> To: Jeff A <jeff@bircholme.com>
> Cc: modperl@perl.apache.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Configuring mod_perl on Debian
>
> On 2002.05.28 04:03 Jeff A wrote:
> >
> > > From: Andrew McNaughton [mailto:andrew@scoop.co.nz]
> > > Sent: 27 May 2002 21:02
> > > To: Ian D. Stewart
> > ...
> > > You miss most of the advantage of debian's package management
> > > if you start building core components independently. Debian
> > > looks after you pretty well, but it's a bit of an all or
> > > nothing affair. ie it's worth a little effort to stick
> > > with the debian packages if you can.
> >
> > I agree with Andrew - getting Apache, Mod_SSL, PHP4 and mod_perl
> > with PHP4/MySQL and mod_perl/mySQL all co-operating is a relative
> > doddle with Debian packaging. Especially in view of the volume of
> > the 'I cant build...' comments on the mod_perl mailing lists.
> >
> > We usually wget the .debs we want installed as a set, into a dir
> > e.g. /usr/local/deb/<build date> and then do a
> > dpkg -i *.deb
> > apt-get check
> >
> > FYI, these are SOME of the installed packages on our Dev server
> > yes - it's a bit messy, but it's potato flavoured, with woody
> > extras, and we don't seem to have any issues.
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > apache 1.3.23-1 Versatile, high-performance HTTP server
> > apache-common 1.3.23-1 Support files for all Apache webservers
> > libapache-mod-ssl 2.8.7-1 Strong cryptography (HTTPS support)
> > libssl0.9.6 0.9.6c-1 SSL shared libraries
> >
> > mysql-client 3.23.46-2 mysql database client binaries
> > mysql-common 3.23.46-2 mysql database common files
> > libmysqlclient 3.23.38-2 mysql database client library
> >
> > perl 5.6.1-7 Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and
> > libperl5.6 5.6.1-7 Shared Perl library.
> >
> > libapache-dbi-perl 0.88-5 Connect apache server to database via
> > libapache-mod-perl 1.26-2 Integration of perl with the Apache web
> > libapache-reload-perl 0.07-1 Reload changed modules in a mod_perl
> > libapache-request-perl 0.33-1 Generic Apache Request Library
> > libapache-session-perl 1.54-1 Perl modules for keeping persistent
> > libapache-ssi-perl 2.16-1 perl Apache::SSI - Implement Server Side
> > libdbd-mysql-perl 1.2216-2 mySQL database interface for Perl
> > libdbi-perl 1.21-2 The Perl5 Database Interface by Tim Bunce
> >
> > php4 4.1.2-1 A server-side, HTML-embedded scripting
> > php4-mysql 4.1.2-1 MySQL module for php4
> > php4-pear 4.1.2-1 PEAR - PHP Extension Application Reposit
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Ok. I'll give it a another go.
>
> Interestingly, I have not seen a lot of "I can't build this" messages
> on modperl, but have seen a fair number of "why isn't this working
> messages on debian-user.
It's not just about ease of getting started, it's about ease of
maintenance over time. debian makes it very easy to keep your software up
to date (though you shouldn't even think about letting debian's package
configuration mess with your httpd.conf once you get going)
Also, if you want to install any debian package that depends on apache,
then debian is going to want a debian apache installation, and you have to
start jumping through hoops to keep it happy, or installing all the other
packages from source, which then also lose out on debian's tools for
keeping them up to date.
Andrew
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