No, I think the return-path stuff is so that if the message bounces at your end the bounce doesn't go to the list but to some address where it dies a quiet death. If you have a look at the 'received' chain, it comes from a machine called 'ron' (presumably because ron uses it) and comes through videotron, which I gather owns Laurand Components (or at least provides their IT services). Does this not fall under the definition of advertising on the list, which I believe incurrs a charge (nominally US$1000, I think). Who sends out the invoice? Tom On 0, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls <ke6sls@cox.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Greetings: > I Just received this message moments ago. Is this actually coming into my > mailbox via bounce-debian-user? If so, why did it pick me? > > *****SPAM***** DAILY REQS!!! 04/05/02 > > The header source: > > Return-Path: <bounce-debian-user=ke6sls=arrl.net@lists.debian.org> > Received: from xlate1.mailsvcs.arrl.net ([216.37.46.9]) > by lakemtai02.cox.net > (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP > id > <20020405030631.DTKJ13056.lakemtai02.cox.net@xlate1.mailsvcs.arrl.net> > for <ke6sls@cox.net>; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:06:31 -0500 > Received: from murphy.debian.org (murphy.debian.org [65.125.64.134]) > by xlate1.mailsvcs.arrl.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with SMTP id g3536U528653 > for <ke6sls@arrl.net>; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:06:30 -0500 > Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:06:30 -0500 > Received: (qmail 9096 invoked by uid 38); 5 Apr 2002 03:05:57 -0000 > X-Envelope-Sender: laurand@videotron.ca > Received: (qmail 9014 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2002 03:05:52 -0000 > Received: from relais.videotron.ca (HELO VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca) > (@24.201.245.36) > by murphy.debian.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 2002 03:05:52 -0000 > Received: from ron ([24.202.85.31]) by > VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 > MR003 Jul 24 2001 16:23:26) with SMTP id GU2R6N00.F5G; Thu, 4 > Apr 2002 22:03:59 -0500 > From: "Ron Mamers" <laurand@videotron.ca> > To: "LAURAND COMPONENTS" <laurand@videotron.ca> > Subject: *****SPAM***** DAILY REQS!!! 04/05/02 > Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:02:07 -0500 > Message-ID: <NFBBIJELELLKMEDLBHPOIEOCBBAB.laurand@videotron.ca> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 > Importance: Normal > X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=8.4 required=4.7 > tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,PLING_PLING,PLING,EXCUSE_3,REMOVE_SUBJ,EXCUSE_7,REMOVE_IN_QUOTES,LINE_OF_YELLING,FREQ_SPAM_PHRASE,FROM_AND_TO_SAME > version=2.01 > X-Spam-Flag: YES > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.01 (devel $Id: SpamAssassin.pm,v 1.61 > 2002/01/25 04:41:02 jmason Exp $) > X-Spam-Prev-Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > X-Spam-Report: 8.43 hits, 4.7 required; > * 0.7 -- Subject is all capitals > * 1.2 -- Subject has lots of exclamation marks > * 0.5 -- Subject has an exclamation mark > * 1.0 -- BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list > * 1.0 -- BODY: List removal information > * 0.0 -- BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list > * 0.0 -- BODY: List removal information > * 0.7 -- BODY: A WHOLE LINE OF YELLING DETECTED > * 1.6 -- Contains phrases frequently found in spam > [score: 14, hits: for any, from our, mail] > [address, mailing list, our mailing, remove the,] > [removed from, the subject, this] > [mail] > * 1.8 -- From and To the same address > Resent-Message-ID: <-1O2sB.A.7NC.VSRr8@murphy> > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > X-Mailing-List: <debian-user@lists.debian.org> archive/latest/205283 > X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org > List-Post: <mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org> > List-Help: <mailto:debian-user-request@lists.debian.org?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: > <mailto:debian-user-request@lists.debian.org?subject=subscribe> > List-Unsubscribe: > <mailto:debian-user-request@lists.debian.org?subject=unsubscribe> > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: debian-user-request@lists.debian.org > Status: R > X-Status: N > > - -- > > Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls > If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. > Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE8rR15ZHBxKsta6kMRApG0AJ0WMLuo+vQqQ4nnDjP3Yb9N1rPA4ACePWaw > Y03KAsIqH8uWM2qyq+Kr/iA= > =/oc2 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org > -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "That you're not paranoid does not mean they're not out to get you." - Robert Waldner Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au
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