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using xfwm as gnome's wm



Hello,

i am a GNOME user and mostly used sawfish and enlightenment as window
managers so far. However, i am still quite disatisfied with them, cos
they have little but disturbing behaviours. They often place windows out
of the screen some bit or do not remeber them right, especially for
non-gnome apps like mozilla. i tweaked the wm's options a lot, reset to
defaults, reinstalled'em, but i am quite unlucky. Then i installed
window maker, which also works not the way i like (misplacing windows, i
cannot remove the icons that hinder me from taking applications the
whole screen etc.).

So far, i have found only two window managers that i am completely
content with:

-XFWM (from XFCE)
-the KDE WM

However - although i often gave it a try - some standard KDE apps do not
work very stable, so i always got back to GNOME.
After a long speech, my questions:

-do you have similar experiences with sawfish, enlightenment or window
maker?
-how can is use the XFWM only (means: no XFCE) for GNOME? The XFCE panel
always comes and i cannot choose XFWM from the GNOME Control Center.

Any help is very appreciated, thank you,

Timo





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