<quote who="brian r"> > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root /cdrom > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/hdc > brw-rw---- 1 root disk 22, 0 /dev/hdc be sure your either doing this as user root, or the user must be in the group 'disk' with these permissions, or the program must be setuid. it should work..my favorite audio cd player is xmcd. nate