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Re: Mozilla and duelling java's



Thanks to several people (Akintayo Holder, Courtney Thomas, and Matt), it seems my real problem is not caused by java, since the web page that isn't working doesn't involve java. Courtney was able to view the page using a system without java installed, which is pretty definite!

I am still curious about whether I've sufficiently purged the other (Sun) java, and if having two version (is it 3 if you count kaffe?) can cause trouble. Java is not strikingly stable; for example I crash if go to http://java.sun.com/products/jdk/1.2/docs/relnotes/demos.html and select Dither test (which seems to work OK from MS Win with NS 6.2.1). The samples I tried worked in a majority of cases, but crashes like this were common, as were things just not working.

Also, of course, I'm still wondering what is causing my problem. I tried disabling my firewall to no effect. I wonder if something is messed up with the module that remembers passwords (not sure if that's part of mozilla-browser or psm) since I do have remembered passwords that should kick in on the screen that's giving me troubles...

At 04:58 PM 12/17/01 -0800, Ross Boylan wrote:
I'm running mozilla 0.9.5 on woody, and am having problems that might
be java related (the real problem is that I can't access a page that
uses java; the reason I say "might be" is that I can access and use
some java test pages).

Awhile ago I got my java from Sun, but more recently have used the
blackdown java as recommended by the mozilla debian read me.  I just
uninstalled blackdown and deleted all remaining java stuff in
/usr/lib/mozilla (mostly plugins/java2) and then reinstalled blackdown.

I'm not sure I've properly purged the other java stuff from my system,
and am hoping for some tips on where else to look.  In particular, I
am suspicious that /etc/alternatives points to some kaffe stuff, since
blackdown's site mentions incompatibilities with the kaffe vm.

My /etc/alternatives looks considerably better since the purge and
reinstall; e.g., java now points to the blackdown version.


Here's some info that might be relevant--sorry about the long lines:
wheat:/usr/lib/mozilla# ls -l /etc/alternatives/*java*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Dec 17 16:03 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/j2re1.3/bin/java lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 Dec 17 16:03 /etc/alternatives/java.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/man1/java.j2re13.1.gz lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Dec 17 16:03 /etc/alternatives/java.ja.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/ja/man1/java.j2re13.1.gz lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Mar 31 2001 /etc/alternatives/javadoc -> /usr/lib/kaffe/bin/javadoc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Mar 31 2001 /etc/alternatives/javadoc.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/man1/kaffe.1.gz lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Mar 31 2001 /etc/alternatives/javakey -> /usr/lib/kaffe/bin/javakey lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Mar 31 2001 /etc/alternatives/javakey.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/man1/kaffe.1.gz lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Mar 31 2001 /etc/alternatives/javap -> /usr/lib/kaffe/bin/javap lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Mar 31 2001 /etc/alternatives/javap.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/man1/kaffe.1.gz lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 52 Dec 17 16:03 /etc/alternatives/javaplugin.so -> /usr/lib/j2re1.3/plugin/i386/netscape4/javaplugin.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 54 Dec 17 16:03 /etc/alternatives/javaplugin_oji-mozilla-0.9.1.so -> /usr/lib/j2re1.3/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 54 Dec 17 16:03 /etc/alternatives/javaplugin_oji-mozilla-0.9.2.so -> /usr/lib/j2re1.3/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 54 Dec 17 16:03 /etc/alternatives/javaplugin_oji-mozilla-cvs.so -> /usr/lib/j2re1.3/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 54 Dec 17 16:03 /etc/alternatives/javaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/j2re1.3/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so

ii  kaffe            1.0.6-1.1 A JVM to run Java bytecode
ii  j2re1.3          1.3.1-1   Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment,
Standard Edition
ii  mozilla-browser  0.9.5-5

wheat:/usr/lib/mozilla# ls -l plugins
total 960
-rw-r--r--    1 504      504          2363 Feb 15  2001 ShockwaveFlash.class
drwxr-xr-x    2 504      504          4096 Nov 26 14:46 flash_linux
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Dec 17 16:03 javaplugin_oji.so -> /etc/alternatives/javaplugin_oji.so
-rw-r--r--    1 504      504        947992 Feb 15  2001 libflashplayer.so
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root        19080 Oct 22 13:29 libnullplugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 Nov 23 08:25 raclass.zip -> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/raclass.zip lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 Nov 23 08:25 rpnp.so -> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/rpnp.so

(Hmm... real audio setup doesn't look so healthy either...).


(The real problem I'm tring to solve is that if I go to
http://sfpl.lib.ca.us/ and click on "View Your Library Record" a
window comes up, but it doesn't have anyhthing in it.  It should have
a login dialogue.  I know from talking to the people at the site they
use java.  Some with a mozilla 0.9.5 browser told me it worked for
them, so I think it's some problem with my setup.)

Thanks in advance for any help.


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