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Re: Where is Netscape? Problem with Sawmill



On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 11:43:33AM +0800, Gong Zeeng wrote:
| Hi,
| 	I had just installed Debian 2.2r4 and have the following queries:
| 1. Netscape
| I installed netscape-base through dselect but I can't run Navigator.  It 
| seems that only some config files were installed but not the executable 
| itself.  I did a search in dselect and the only package that comes close to 
| Netscape is the netscape-base.  Doesn't Debian (I got the 3-disk download 
| version) come with any Netscape package?

Yeah, but you don't want to use it, trust me.  The package would be
version 4.something which is really old.  There are newer browsers
that are better.  I recommend using galeon or mozilla, and getting
them from sid or woody respectively.  If you really want netscape 4
that badly, then you can work your way through the (ugly) package
names to find the one(s) you want.  (Here's a hint : 'apt-cache search
netscape | less')

| 2. Sawmill
| The sawmill window manager doesn't seem to work.  But I have no problem 
| with the other window manager like Enlightenment and Wmaker.  What 
| gives?  Basically, when I switch from Enlightenment (or any window manager 
| for that matter) to sawmill, I still remain in Enlightenment.  And if 
| sawmill is installed as the only window manager, X shows the infamous wire 
| mesh.

Try installing sawmill as the only window manager, then when you run X
(do so from a console) run a terminal and from there run "sawmill".
See if it works then, or see what errors you get in the terminal.  In
any case, sawmill is also outdated and I recommend getting sawfish
(the new name, legal issues) from woody.  I have version 0.38
installed right now (I think potato's sawmill is back at 0.20 or
something) and I see that 1.0.1 is available.  (This is weird, neither
apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade want to upgrade sawfish, but
apt-get install will)

| 3. GPM freezes the mouse pointer in X
| When I installed GPM, the mouse pointer just freezes in X.  It's okay when 
| I uninstall GPM.  I am using a PS/2 mouse.

Right, when you install gpm you no longer have X configured right.
What happens is that you have 2 processes both trying to read from the
same file, and that is bad (it is a race condition and unpredictable
as to what data will go to which process).  If you want to have gpm
installed you need to tell X to read from /dev/gpmdata instead of the
device itself.  You must also make sure that gpm's repeat-type is set
to 'raw' and you use the same protocol for both gpm and X.  I have
this setup and it works great (my mouse uses 'imps2' in gpm and
"IMPS/2" in X).
 
| 4. KDE support
| Just wondering if Debian (future version) comes with KDE installation?  I 
| still prefer KDE over GNOME.

This probably depends on license issues, but since I like GNOME I
really can't say.

HTH,
-D

-- 

Even youths grow tired and weary,
    and young men stumble and fall;
but those who hope in the Lord 
    will renew their strength.
They will soar on wings like eagles;
    they will run and not grow weary,
    they will walk and not be faint.

        Isaiah 40:31



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