It's that old backspace / delete problem. I've seen this pop up on list a few times recently, started seeing it myself on a box I'd set up recently, now it's appearing on my main desktop -- but inconsistantly among two shell sessions. One of these is older (247,192 seconds, vs. 186 seconds, taken from $SECONDS shell variable). I'm not aware of any configuration changes I might have made which would cause this to occur. There are significant differences in the stty configurations. In the older configuration, I'm seeing the following output to stty -a: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ speed 38400 baud; rows 59; columns 80; line = 0; intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^?; kill = ^U; eof = ^D; eol = <undef>; eol2 = <undef>; start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R; werase = ^W; lnext = <undef>; flush = ^O; min = 1; time = 0; -parenb -parodd cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts -ignbrk brkint ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl ixon -ixoff -iuclc -ixany imaxbel opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0 vt0 ff0 isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -xcase -tostop -echoprt echoctl echoke ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The newer configuration: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ speed 38400 baud; rows 59; columns 80; line = 0; intr = <undef>; quit = <undef>; erase = <undef>; kill = <undef>; eof = ^D; eol = <undef>; eol2 = <undef>; start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = <undef>; rprnt = <undef>; werase = <undef>; lnext = <undef>; flush = <undef>; min = 1; time = 0; -parenb -parodd cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts -ignbrk brkint ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl ixon -ixoff -iuclc -ixany imaxbel opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0 vt0 ff0 isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -xcase -tostop -echoprt echoctl echoke ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Note in particular the <undef> settings for intr, quit, erase, kill, susp, rprnt werase, and flush. The real question is: why are these settings changing? I can (and have) saved the "correct" settings (the old ones) with the stty -g command, to a file, say ~/.stty: 2506:5:bf:8a3b:3:1c:7f:15:4:0:1:0:11:13:1a:0:12:f:17:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0 ...which works. The other option is to run 'stty sane', which also appears to set sane defaults. Including this in my ~/.bashrc works, but I'm curious as to why it's necessary at all. Additing 'stty sane' to /etc/bash.bashrc seems to be the best systemwide fix. Any other clarifications I'm missing? Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <kmself@ix.netcom.com> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ Land of the free Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html
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