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Re: Mozilla 0.9.5, font sizes



on Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 07:35:20AM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker (jwbaker@acm.org) wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Alan Shutko wrote:
> 
> > "Karsten M. Self" <kmself@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> >
> > > To this extent, the CSS spec is severely flawed in that it grants
> > > precedence to website author, not reader.  This is bass ackwards.
> >
> > One major point of CSS was explicitly to grant precedence to reader to
> > override things.  It's browser vendors/authors who have been unable to
> > grasp this concept, and come up with a decent UI.
> 
> Mozilla has a perfectly good UI for this.  Just uncheck that box in
> the font preferences panel that allows web pages to use their own
> fonts.  Your fonts will be used all the time.

This isn't sufficient.  And yes, I use Galeon.

I can specify a font *face*.  I cannot specify a font *size* to be used.
The minimum font scaling helps, but due to differences between fonts
(Courier New TT displays larger than Garamount TT at an equivalent point
size), it's not sufficient.

What I'm requesting, again, is the ability to disable use of the "size"
attribute, or the ability to factor the step size such that a size=1
font is still readable.

Looking back at a page I turned up earlier today:

http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pagename=View&c=Article&cid=FT3X0JDKUSC&live=true&tagid=ZZZC00L1B0C&subheading=information%20technology

(if the above doesn't work, try:  http://news.ft.com/)

  - The stylesheet specifies 12pt Ariel as the "AllWide" font (default
    text style).

  - With my default settings, I need to bump the page to 130% for
    comfortable viewing (relatively easy with Galeon, but an annoyance
    all the same).

  - Deselecting the "use own fonts" setting makes the situation XXX
    worse/better.  In this case, there's a confounding of effects
    between my chosing a font that I prefer, and the site insisting
    (through stylesheets) on a point size.  I'm not altogether sure that
    I can override a class specification for a font.  I'll look into it
    eventually.
    
More general point:  websites are doing themselves a disservice by
*overspecifying* presentation.  CSS or no CSS.

Peace.

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