RE: RedHat vs Debian?
Well Alan used a lot more words than I would have but I agree. Red Hat
convinced me that Linux was for me. Debian is showing me that I've just
scratched the surface!
FWIW I'm re-re-re-installing Debian Woody as I type this. My wildly
optimistic goal is to have a working system when I'm done (not repairable,
but really working) while my more realistic goal is to at least understand
what I fucked up this go round before I re-re-re-re-install.
Not scientific but heart felt!
John Purser
-----Original Message-----
From: allen wayne best just ramblin in his amx
[mailto:abest@rl76065.cup.hp.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:25
To: Robert L. Harris; Debian Users
Subject: Re: RedHat vs Debian?
robert:
here's my $0.0001 worth! (with the disclaimer that own rh stock (350)).
i personally like rh (and then bought the stock) because it installed with
such ease on my 4 systems (5.4, 6.1, 7.0, and 7.1 - all are now 7.x). and
the
upgrades went like a snap. my office machine where only m$#!+ is supported
was made whole again by wiping one of the satanic spells (lots of wholly
water!) with 6.1. now it's upgraded to 7.1. i did have a problem in the
upgrade in that i had put on a newer version of kde when under 6.1. all of
that was in /usr/local and after finally nailing that down, all is well!).
on the other hand, we've another machine that we are (!gasp!) porting some
tools to linux for in-house (read manufacturing) use. that machine was
required to be debian at 2.2.19pre17. i had nothing but hell getting debian
installed. i spent more than 60 hours getting debian to correctly install.
rh
7.1 took about 4 hours. but it finally took debian! i've used apt-get to get
all the packages that i've needed (though apt-get is a bit klunky. for
instance, i would much prefer it show me what i have that has an upgrade
path, rather than everything in the world. maybe a choice of windows: a)
what
i have; b) what i have the needs upgrading and/or has an upgrade; c) items
that i could install that i don't have that may be usefull to what i have
installed already (say a gui front end to ipchains, as way of example), d)
other items that i don't have, but are available (say i have a cdrw, but no
cdrw software), and finally, e) everything else.
final comment: for the great unwashed out there who have trouble with
formatting a floppy, i recommend mandrake. well, the conclusion here came
about my convincing my 78 year old neighbor to try something besides the
m$#!+ gackware he is addicted to. john being a ticker, finnally relented,
and
started buying every distribution of linux he could find. he got corel,
slackare, rh, mandrake, and a couple whose name i can't recall. he installed
them; he broke them; i fixed them; he broke them; he re-installed them; and
well, you get the picture. (john is spoiled with the windows approach:
program blah is acting strangely: reinstall the whole nine yards and start
over! - and is that a difficult hurdle to overcome!)
anyway, john had better luck getting everything to work the first time with
mandrake than any other package. which is rather interesting given that john
will go down and buy the cheapest piece of junk being sold at the local
computer mega-mart, fry's.
so, my $.0001 boils down to this:
are you a real computer nerd (and that is a salute and compliment!), go for
debian. your knowlege about linux will blossom.
do you want robust, will work, must get on with, with time spent making this
secure for your business? go redhat!
are you able to find the power switch, and with help, find the cd slot? go
mandrake!
again, this is not meant to be demeaning to anyone else's observations. just
what one rambler owning, arkansawyun, worked on everything from vax's
testing
rocket motors to vax's running steel-belt making machines (NOT for
firestone-wall!), to hpux running very conceivable size business to ibm
mainframes looking for oil in seismic exploration to vax computers searching
for plate tectonics on venus. and always, but always, m$#!+ free! <s>
(additional: never used a computer to certify the diamonds found a Crater of
Diamons State Park in Murfreesboro, AR!)
On Thursday 30 August 2001 08:33, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> I'm looking for a study/comparison of RedHat vs Debian. We have a
number
> of boxes, some production, which run everything from RedHat 6.0 and newer.
> I'd like to look at converting to Debian stable but need to justify my
case
> before I can even formally suggest it. I've started listing my own
> reasons and issues but need more. Any good suggestions or comparisions
> already done?
>
> Robert
>
> :wq!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> Robert L. Harris | Micros~1 :
> Senior System Engineer | For when quality, reliability
> at RnD Consulting | and security just aren't
> \_ that important!
> DISCLAIMER:
> These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else.
> FYI:
> perl -e 'print
$i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
--
regards,
allen wayne best
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telnet 447-4070
"your friendly neighborhood rambler owner"
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Current date: 0:54:9::241:2001
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