Re: apt-get dselect upgrade problems
Breathe, man, breathe...
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:20:53 "Jürgen A. Erhard" wrote:
> >>>>> "Joost" == Joost Kooij <joost@topaz.mdcc.cx> writes:
>
> Joost> On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 09:52:46AM -0400, John Covici wrote:
> >> I just did apt-get update before doing the upgrade -- how could
> they
> >> be out of date?
>
> Joost> If you do a "dselect-upgrade" with apt-get, it will use the
> Joost> dpkg available packages database.
>
> Bullshit. (Sorry, but I even did an strace on apt-get dselect-upgrade
> just now to be sure, and nowhere does it access
> /var/lib/dpkg/available).
>
> It *will* use dselect's package status file for checking which
> packages should be installed, but it always does this anyway (both
> apt-get upgrade and apt-get dselect-upgrade open /var/lib/dpkg/status,
> according to strace).
>
> Joost> Apt normally uses its own available packages database, and
> Joost> does not use the dpkg database. The dpkg available
> Joost> database must also be kept up to date, but there is no
> Joost> "apt-get dselect-update" for that. I think that apt-get
> Joost> should do this on every regular "apt-get update", because
> Joost> it should keep the dpkg available packages list in sync
> Joost> with the user's expectations.
>
> As I said, that's bullshit. You're right that dpkg's available file
> needs to be up to date... but only for dselect and for manual browsing
> (do that quite often myself). dpkg itself doesn't use it AFAIK.
>
> You do the updating via "dselect update", but I should think that you
> known that.
>
> Bye, J
>
> PS: I wouldn't have reacted so strongly if a) you didn't walk around
> here with an aura of "I *always* know what I'm saying" and b) there
> hadn't been someone stating that you were one of the most
> knowledgeable people on this list. Sorry, but those factors just
> *call* for a "cutting down to size once in a while".
>
> --
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