Hi, I've never gotten Gnome to work with KDM, but I've gotten KDE to work with GDM. Create a file called KDE that contains the line /usr/bin/kde2 and save it to your /etc/gdm/Sessions directory. Set the permissions to executable, and then you'll be able to choose KDE from the GDM login box. -- Casey Henderson Casey@umit.maine.edu http://www.cs.umaine.edu/~hender97/