Re: join us!

[Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com>]

On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 10:03:59AM -0600, Kurt Seifried wrote:

> So did you fix the root hack in pre10, the DOS in rc1, or the typo in the
> install script? Oh yeah, I gotta read the changelog to find out,
> wheep.

Well, you're going to have to read it somewhere, yes? And now you know where!

> As for Apache, 1.3.12 has been out 6+ months, freezing software and
> using a version much older doesn't make much sense to me 

What does that mean, "doesn't make much sense to me?" I have just read
through this whole thread and in it are two very good explanations of why
this is done here, and many many other places, as noted, all over the
industry.

I can't help but think what a review of OpenBSD by you would look like! I
would like to see you take on Theo for insisting (still) on bind4, not 8!
But his reasoning is exactly what's been described here! Sure, you can
install bind8 if you wish on obsd - there's a package for it - but just try
to tell them it's bind8 that belongs in the distro. Whoosshhh. <g>

> Yup. And for gods sake, document it somehwere that you need to read the
> changelogs. I've actually gotten several emails from smart Linux people
> (i.e. people that also write/manage online Linux related publications) 

Oh, you mean "Linux journalists?" Hmmm... You were looking much better when
you just admitted that you didn't do your homework; continuing this attack
is getting very old. Changelogs are standard components of the apparatus
that comprises how software is distributed, not just in Linux but all over
the industry. Why do you think those files are there? Insisting that you
should be informed that they ought to be actually *read* is like asking
someone to remind you to be careful when you fire up your chainsaw.

> I am not going to sit down and read /usr/doc/* just on a whim, neither are
> most users or even people trying to do a review

On a "whim?" I gotta tell you Kurt, you are all over the court, and you are
not doing yourself any favors by persisting in this. Only your best friends
will tell you: chill out; get some sleep; and stop reacting all over the
place. Do yourself a favor and stay off these lists for a few days. Your ego
is getting in your way. Come back when your head clears.

-- 
Bob Bernstein
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Esmond, R.I., USA