Re: MONOCHROME mutt/mc, COLOR ls/elvis ...?

[Christopher Mosley <cmosley@voicenet.com>]

On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Christopher Mosley wrote:

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> Will Trillich <will@serensoft.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 10:25:10AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote:
> >> Will Trillich wrote:
> >> > hmm. i must have some odd video settings. i used your .muttrc
> >> > settings verbatim [thanks!], and i do see bold items here and
> >> > there, but still no color. (mc has the same trouble -- monochrome
> >> > and bold but no color -- although elvis shows colors just fine.)
> >> > 
> >> > i'm telnetting in with TERM setting:
> >> >         % printenv TERM
> >> >         vt220
> >> > 
> >> I wonder if it's your telnet client.  I've found few for Win32 that
> >> support color well;  TeraTerm Pro does pretty well.  What the situation
> >> might be on the Mac, I've no idea.
> 
> > i don't think so. (could be wrong, but...)
> 
> > for shits&giggles, i do
> > 	setenv TERM linux
> > and then i see white on blue in mc, but the character set is screwy;
> > mutt then shows color as well, but escape sequences interfere with
> > user input [???]  after restoring to
> > 	setenv TERM vt220
> 
> Maybe add color strings to vt220 terminfo using tic and infocmp
> but I don't know because:
> 
> What are you doing?
> Where are you telneting from - for example linux xwindows xterm?
> What are you telneting to - for example a shell account running linux?
> or a nearby machine? 
> What program are you using to telnet?
> What TERM enviornmental variable - where? 
>                                                         Thanks

I see you are using a mac and telneting into a linux machine?
Your telnet has vt220 emulation?
You are setting the environmental on the remote?

Well, a vt220 is _not_ a color terminal even though emulations might
support color, That is: the vt220 terminfo does not describe a color term.
You either have to force color although this might be the default
 - this capability has to do with the the way the program
(mutt, mc, ls, lynx etc.) was written and the curses library used to
 compile. If the terminal types are limited on your mac telnet program
and you have to use a vt220 you could possibly add color to the terminfo
description if the linux programs on the remote do not force color.

Also, when you post, you should start out explaining the problem
rather than having it extracted gradually by a guessing game.
If I did not guess right please let me know :) and I'll make
another guess.

   
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> > i'm pretty sure that my telnet client does color pretty well.
> 
> > ls --color  ==> rich color set
> > elvis       ==> plenty-o-colors
> > tcsh prompt ==> color hiliting just fine
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> > mc          ==> monochrome w/reverse-video and bold
> > mutt        ==> monochrome w/reverse-video and bold
> 
> > i bet there's some environment hook that elvis and ls both find/use,
> > that mc and mutt don't look for (or vice-versa). or just one variable
> > setting that i'm missing in both monochrome cases...
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