RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy Server
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-----Original Message-----
From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [mailto:patrick_cheong@astro.com.my]
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 6:05 AM
To: 'Kenrick, Chris'
Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
Subject: RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy Server
Have tried and am still using the same userid/pw combination under win95 and
debian...still no luck....actually I am also trying to compile a program
which will validate my debian box to the nt server....but I seem to have
several files *.h files missing..will try that when I get back home...
Know of any good sniffers for win95?
Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: patrick_cheong@astro.com.my
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:Chris.Kenrick@praxa.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:45 AM
> To: 'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'
> Subject: RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy Server
>
> Patrick,
>
> Helping is no problem. I've spent no small amount of time trying to
> get
> past
> our proxy server here, so saving other people the same trouble if possible
> is a
> good thing :)
>
> As for IIS 4.0 .. IIS stands for Internet Information Server, which
> is MS implementation of typical internet server tools .. I presume MS
> Proxy
> Server
> is a specialised derivation of IIS or something like that...
>
> Unfortunately we weren't lucky enough for it just to pop a login prompt
> out
> of the
> blue...
>
> If you were feeling really masochistic, you could run a packet sniffer of
> some sort
> and trace what messages went between you and the proxy when connecting
> through
> IE. But thats probably a bit too tricky to be worthwhile :)
>
> As you mentioned in an earlier post, if they have socks enabled then this
> is
> probably
> your best bet.
>
> Another random thought I just had .. Try creating a user on the linux box
> with the
> same password and username as your windows one. Its a long shot but worth
> a try...
>
> As for which part of downunder, I hail from Wollongong/Sydney
> (respectively). I do
> however have some friends etc in Canberra (such as my brother in law :) )
>
> - ChrisK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [mailto:patrick_cheong@astro.com.my]
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2000 11:37 AM
> To: 'Kenrick, Chris'
> Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject: RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy Server
>
>
> Chris,
>
> Before I even proceed, I must thank you for your help.
>
> I tried your suggesting in telnetting into the proxy server "telnet
> pintprv1
> 8080", and the tlnet screen comes up then nothing...but when I pressed
> "Enter", I got the following message on screen:-
>
> <<telnet.log>>
>
> Noticed the "Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0" !?!...hmmmm I wonder what this
> means?
>
> I will try to ask the "friendly" network fols at the IS Dept. as to how
> the
> server(s) were set up and what is needed to get my Debian box to access
> the
> Web so that I can use dselect or apt-get......
>
>
> Cheers.
>
> P/S : BTW, which part of downunder are you from? I completed by undergrad
> in
> Canberra back in 1993!
>
> Patrick Cheong
> Information Systems Assurance
> Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> E-mail: patrick_cheong@astro.com.my
> Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:Chris.Kenrick@praxa.com.au]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:10 AM
> > To: 'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'
> > Subject: RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy Server
> >
> > It wouldn't surprise me if it did...
> >
> > However, at my location we also use a MS Proxy Server, running on port
> 80
> > and it works fine under netscape, apt-get, etc...
> >
> > Maybe your server is configured differently to ours ...
> >
> > There might be a checkbox somewhere 'only allow Internet Explorer web
> > browsers' :(
> >
> > Or alternately, maybe Internet Explorer is using your windows password
> > and logon to authenticate you to the proxy, which the other browsers
> > probably can't do.
> >
> > One thing to try ... try telnetting to port 8080 of your proxy
> > (telnet pintprv1 8080) to see what happens. If asked for a username
> > and or password , try your windows username/password to see if it
> > lets you in.
> >
> > If this is the case, I'm not sure what to do next though :(
> >
> > - Chris
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [mailto:patrick_cheong@astro.com.my]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2000 11:04 AM
> > To: Kenrick, Chris
> > Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> > Subject: RE: Linux Client Through MS Proxy Server
> >
> >
> > Yes...only IE seem to work (i.e. with the proxy setting set to
> > pintprv1.<company_name>.com.my and port set at 8080)..have tried
> Navigator
> > and Opera but nothing happens!
> >
> > Also, only upon request was I allowed to access and download from ftp
> > sites.
> >
> > Does MS Proxy Server use its own proprietary "protocol"?
> >
> > Patrick Cheong
> > Information Systems Assurance
> > Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> > E-mail: patrick_cheong@astro.com.my
> > Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:Chris.Kenrick@praxa.com.au]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 7:17 AM
> > > To: 'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'
> > > Subject: RE:
> > >
> > > OK ..
> > >
> > > It seems to be suggesting that the web proxy is running on port 8080
> on
> > > the
> > > machine
> > > PINTPRV1 ... (WebProxyPort=8080)
> > >
> > > However, it doesn't seem to set web browsers to use the proxy. (Set
> > > Browsers
> > > to use proxy = 0 and
> > > Set Browsers to use Auto Config = 0)
> > >
> > > Does Internet Explorer go through a proxy? (Tools .. Internet Options
> > etc)
> > > .. the file
> > > seems to suggest that the proxy may not be necessary for web access?
> > >
> > > Do other protocols other than HTTP work .. can you telnet or ftp out
> for
> > > instance?
> > >
> > > - Chris
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [mailto:patrick_cheong@astro.com.my]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 1 August 2000 4:39 PM
> > > To: 'Kenrick, Chris'
> > > Subject: RE:
> > >
> > >
> > > <<mspclnt.ini>>
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > Here is a copy of the said .ini file. Any idea how to decipher some of
> > the
> > > info.?
> > >
> > > Patrick Cheong
> > > Information Systems Assurance
> > > Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> > > E-mail: patrick_cheong@astro.com.my
> > > Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:Chris.Kenrick@praxa.com.au]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:43 PM
> > > > To: 'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'
> > > > Subject: RE:
> > > >
> > > > Umm...
> > > >
> > > > For some weird reason MS web proxies like to run on port 80 (not
> 8080
> > as
> > > > you
> > > > had)
> > > >
> > > > try http_proxy with port 80 instead :)
> > > >
> > > > Or alternately, just check within IE for what the proxy settings are
>
> > > > (Tools - Internet Options - Settings - Lan Settings)
> > > >
> > > > I don't think a DNS within the ISP's network counts as an external
> > > > machine.
> > > >
> > > > Try pinging something outside of the ISP and you might find that you
> > > have
> > > > some problems... :)
> > > >
> > > > - Chris
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]
> [mailto:patrick_cheong@astro.com.my]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 1 August 2000 3:41 PM
> > > > To: 'Kenrick, Chris'
> > > > Subject: RE:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did a "export http_proxy=http://<proxy_ip>:8080" before using
> > > > dselect....does not seem to work....about the ping...welll at the
> > > command
> > > > prompt I just typed "ping 192.228.128.20" which is the ip for one of
> > the
> > > > isp's dns......
> > > >
> > > > Will try the MS Proxy Client!
> > > >
> > > > Will post later.
> > > > Thx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Patrick Cheong
> > > > Information Systems Assurance
> > > > Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> > > > E-mail: patrick_cheong@astro.com.my
> > > > Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Kenrick, Chris [SMTP:Chris.Kenrick@praxa.com.au]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:24 PM
> > > > > To: 'CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]'; 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> > > > > Subject: RE:
> > > > >
> > > > > The answer depends on how the proxy is set up...
> > > > >
> > > > > It might be worth trying setting the http_proxy environment
> variable
> > > > > to http://yourproxynamehere:80/ (make sure you export it of
> course)
> > > > > This should at least get things like apt working...
> > > > >
> > > > > The other thing that might be worth looking at ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Try installing the microsoft proxy client on your win95 partition.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is often findable on a network share of your proxy
> > > > > ( \\yourproxyname\mspclnt is usual). In addition to being able to
>
> > > > > get out through the proxy, mspclnt.ini on the same drive
> > > > > can give you some hints as to the proxy configuration.
> > > > >
> > > > > Finally, its possible that the proxy might be set up to only
> > > > > allow certain users to do certain things, and you may be running
> > > > > into a permissions problem...
> > > > >
> > > > > - Chris
> > > > >
> > > > > PS: How did you manage to ping the outside network. According to
> my
> >
> > > > > tests and MS documentation, MS proxies don't let pings through to
> > the
> > > > > outside world!!
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]
> > [mailto:patrick_cheong@astro.com.my]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 1 August 2000 12:29 PM
> > > > > To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> > > > > Subject:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi guys!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been searching high and low for the answer but no such
> > > luck.....I
> > > > > am
> > > > > attempting to connect by Debian GNU/Linux box to the Net through a
> > > > > Microsoft
> > > > > Proxy Server 2.0. I can ping outside the local network but
> whenever
> > I
> > > > use
> > > > > dselect, I get an error message. I understand that if the socks is
> > > > enabled
> > > > > on the M$ Proxy Server, I can use the socks4/5 client to sockify
> the
> > > > > programs which need to connect to the Net, but I think the proxy
> > > server
> > > > > socks is not enabled. Also, I have seen numerous postings
> regarding
> > > the
> > > > > use
> > > > > of some M$ proprietary "protocol" which allows M$ Internet
> Explorer
> > > (and
> > > > > not
> > > > > other Web Browsers such as Netscape and Opera) to connect to the
> > Net.
> > > I
> > > > > tried using Lynx in Debian and this is the error messages I get:
> > > > >
> > > > > HTTP Error 401
> > > > >
> > > > > 401.2 Unauthorised Logon failed due to server configuration.
> > > > >
> > > > > This error indicates that the credentials passed to the server do
> > not
> > > > > match
> > > > > the credentials required to logon to the server. This is usually
> > > caused
> > > > by
> > > > > not sendoing the proper WWW - Authenticate header field. Please
> > > contact
> > > > > the
> > > > > Web server's admin to verify that you have permission to access
> the
> > > > > requested resource.
> > > > >
> > > > > In M$ Windows 95b(on the same box using XOSL), I can connect using
> > > only
> > > > M$
> > > > > Internet Explorer! Can anyone enlightenment me? Is there a space
> on
> > > the
> > > > > Net
> > > > > where I can find the answers to this question? Thx.
> > > > >
> > > > > P/S I am certain my settings on the Debian box is correct!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Patrick Cheong
> > > > > Information Systems Assurance
> > > > > Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> > > > > E-mail: patrick_cheong@astro.com.my
> > > > > Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
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