Re: Is newsgroup "linux.debian.user" broke ...
- To: Miquel van Smoorenburg <firstname.lastname@example.org>
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- Subject: Re: Is newsgroup "linux.debian.user" broke ...
- From: Christopher Mosley <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:21:25 -0400 (EDT)
- Message-id: <Pine.SOL.4.04.10008011905330.18897-100000@unix01>
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O.K. The newsgroup doesn't/shouldn't exist, I have a vague
recollection of deja news allowing reading in a group format with posting
privileges -maybe not. But from the response I've got no one is pushing
the posts around on usenet now. Deja must be doing it for itself alone.
Its no accident and pretty much everything that goes to the list
shows up at dejanews.
Since there is no feed a moderated group might allow me to post
but I would have nothing to read.
On 1 Aug 2000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> In article >Pine.SOL.4.04.10008011304390.29002-100000@unix01>,
> Christopher Mosley <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> >Is the newsgroup "linux.debian.user" broke everywhere or just here?
> The linux.* hierarchy has been shut down a couple of years ago. But
> ofcourse once those groups exist it's hard to remove them on
> all news servers. "Old newsgroups never die and they don't fade
> away, either" or something like that goes the old Usenet saying.
> Usually, those groups are empty, until someone starts another
> mail2news gateway again. That has happened a number of times.
> A lot of them have been shutdown again fairly quickly as well
> since the linux.* hierarchy was shut down for good reasons: spam
> and clueless users.
> When the linux-kernel mailing list was also a newsgroup, a lot
> of the messages were spam, and when you mailed to it you would
> post in usenet as well and your address got spam-harvested. Now
> a lot of people didn't like that. Also, AOL users that failed to
> install their latest RedHat CD went to the linux-kernel newsgroup
> list and demanded help. So that list became unreadable. Real
> kernel hackers backed away from it and even started to use
> private, secret mailing lists. That ofcourse was B A D.
> So in the end, the whole linux.* hierarchy was shutdown. The gateway
> at yggdrasil, and the servers that carried the group (Cistron used
> to be the European hub for linux.*).
> >The newserver here never has any posts but deja news picks up the posts?
> I think that deja internally gateways some lists to their news
> system, I doubt that linux.debian.user actually still exists,
> but you never know if someone started gatewaying again, perhaps
> even by accident.
> >I'd much prefer a newsgroup than a mailing list.
> Run your own newsserver and do the gatewaying yourself, being *very*
> careful that you do NOT send the group(s) back out again.
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