bash-2.03$ ls -l /var/log/lastlog -rw-rw-r-- 1 root utmp 18523020 Jun 22 16:08 /var/log/lastlog What do I do with this enormous creature? And how did it get that way? Why isn't this thing rotated? How can I get it rotated? (I know that's a lot of questions but I'm kinda weirded out by this...<g>) -- Bob Bernstein http://www.ruptured-duck.com