I am getting into some kind of loop and I need to remove perl-base (temporarily) but it is an essential package. The other way around this is to activate APT::Force LoopBreak but I don't know what that means and the apt man pages do not tell me what that is. Any ideas on how I can fix this? thanks -- Andrew ----------------------------- GnuPG Public KeyID: 0x48109681 *we all live downstream*