hi ya greg > I tried to capture the output by redirecting to probe.txt but got an empty > file... bash root# X -probeonly 2>&1 /tmp/probe.log at least i'd like to see the output of it.. startx usually does not start because: - wrong X server ( /usr/X11R6/bin/X* ) - wrong modes ( 1024x768 or less or higher ) - wrong monitor spec ( HoriSync and VertRefresh ) see spec from your monitor - wrong video memory ( wierd output ) - other wacky config issues ?? thanx alvin