-> > The usual max is 8 characters. You can use more but why? -> > -> because i have a long surname ;-). don't risk problems with programs & scripts which take only 8 chars; use your first name as login then ;) -- Matus "fantomas" Uhlar, sysadmin at Telenor Internet Kosice, Slovakia BIC coord for *.sk; admin of netlab.irc.sk; co-admin of irc.felk.cvut.cz Boost your system's speed by 500% - DEL C:\WINDOWS\*.*