Re: Netscape bookmark-rearranging crashing IDENTIFIED, possibly
Daniel Barclay wrote:
> I think I have determined that the bookmark-rearranging crashes are a
> hard (non-intermittent) bug in Netscape's code:
>
> It can't seem to handle updating the Bookmarks Properties window if you click
> on any Bookmarks window line after dragging a separator.
>
> A GGG H H !
> A A G G H H !
> A A G HHHHH !
> AAAAA G GG H H !
> A A G G H H
> A A GGG H H !
>
> How many THOUSANDS of times has Netscape crashed on me because of this?
> How many HOURS of work (trying to rearrange bookmarks) has this destroyed?
> How much frustration has this caused?
>
> (Well no, it doesn't explain the Java-related crashes, the plain hanging
> (where it doesn't service expose events), the taking over the keyboard and
> mouse, the corruption of the bookmarks file if a bookmark contains just
> the wrong combination of characters (I sure wish I knew whose web-page
> title caused it), and all the other crap, but could it be, maybe, just
> MAYBE, that I have found the bug that has caused me SO MUCH aggravation
> the last couple of years?
>
> I bet I'm the only one who has encountered the problem because I'm
> such a pack rat with my bookmarks. I bookmark all sorts of things
> when I'm looking around, and then later I go back and sort out the
> mess. I edit the bookmark names, create a lot of folders and separators,
> and drag a lot of things around.
> The key is the editing step. When I open the Bookmarks Properties
> window, I leave it open to make it easier to edit the next bookmark.
> I bet Netscape's testers (no, I don't _know_ that they have any, but
> I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt) and the rest of you don't edit
> bookmarks that way.
>
> So, to verify that this is a specific Netscape problem (vs. a local
> problem caused by my local configuration or by the exact state of
> my bookmarks file or something), could some of you try the following
> on your various versions of Netscape (Communicator) and see if you get
> any crashes?
>
Yup! It crashes every time.
It's definitely not just a local problem, but it takes a fairly elaborate sequence to
get to the bug so maybe you were the only one affected :-)
John
>
> ** Be sure to exit and start fresh so that if it crashes you won't lose
> any recently changed information (like bookmark edits). ***
>
> - start Netscape Communicator
>
> - open up the bookmarks window
>
> - select (click on) a regular bookmark and open the Bookmark Properties
> window
>
> - leaving the Bookmark Properties window open, drag a separator to move
> it up or down
>
> - click on any (other?) Bookmarks window line (whether bookmark, folder,
> or separator)
> - this is where it crashes for me
>
> Recently, I've gotten crashes on:
> - Debianized version 4.07
> - plain version 4.08, with LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libgnumalloc.so
> - plain version 4.61, with LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libgnumalloc.so
> - Debianized version 4.5 (I think)
>
> I'm on what I think is a pretty vanilla slink system (upgraded from
> hamm).
>
> Also, could those of you with access to Netscape on non-Linux Unix
> systems try it too, to confirm that the problem is in Netscape
> (vs. peculiar to Linux)?
>
> Thanks.
>
> So, how do I report this bug to Netscape? Ever since they put up
> that stupid Netscape Netcenter, it's been virtually impossible to
> find product information (such as a bug-reporting address).
>
> Daniel, exhausted
>
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