hi, when I try to login through xdm, it disappears, I expect my X (windowmaker) to start up, but xdm comes back! as if nothing happened. I'd like to tell you more, but I can't figure out where to look for error messages... I read the xdm man page (some of it) and I don't want to have to use the -debug option! hope someone can help, i like a graphical login much more and i'd like to try and start a remote x session from a sun at uni! woo hoo. thanx, Paul