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Slink upgrade and xwindows



The Slink upgrade went great for me.

Upgraded without rebooting.  A couple of days later I needed to reboot
to run a windows program (it had been 2 weeks).  I had read "The great X
reorganization" but forgot to remove xdm and xfs.  So when I did reboot
I got the xwindows login which is why I am writing this.

I think that installing xdm and xfs as part of the upgrade is a very bad
idea for several reasons:

1)	This is a very big change to my system, I have never had these
packages before- I wanted an upgrade on what I had.  		This is a
fundamental change in how my system works that I didn't ask for or want.

2)	Now the stability of my system is only as good as the stability of
X.  Linux is a very stable system but xwindows 		has occasional
problems.  With these packages installed overall stability is
compromised in the name of "user 			friendliness"  Things like this are
the reason that I left MS in the first place.

3)	If you want to do any kind of maintenance that requires X to be shut
down now you have to mess with getting out of
	it- its an unneeded extra step (which was not asked for).

It didn't take me too long to figure out how to get rid of this
unsolicited nuisance but I had read "The great X reorganization" which
takes a while and I doubt if many people did.  In the mean time I had
logged onto X as root (something I very very seldom do, never- without
having sued to root which is not possible with this config)  When I
tried to get out of X my machine locked up, something that has not
happened in I don't know how long.  I had to manually fix my root fs-
SHHHEEEEEEESH!

Oh, now this is *stable*, this is
*better*-------------------------NOT!!!!!

well, how about-

This
SUCKS---------------------------------------------------------YES!!!!!

I must say that I am really disappointed that debian's install went to
this, I would expect something like this from RH or someone known as the
"user friendly" dist.  But *not* from debian.

Oh well, just thought I'd let my opinion be known.

Still love Debian =)

Bill Lacy

PS: "User friendly" OSs should come with replacement reset switches (for
later ;)


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