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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V98 #787



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> Subject:
>
> debian-user-digest Digest                               Volume 98 : Issue 787
>
> Today's Topics:
>          RE: Strange thing ...
>          Re: Was the release of Debian 2.0 put on Linux Announce?
>          Re: New Debian user's reaction to X
>          RE: Strange thing ...
>          Re: New Debian user's reaction to X
>          Going back to slackware...
>          Re: New Debian user's reaction to X
>          Re: New Debian user's reaction to X
>          Help with EIDE IBM Drive.
>          Re: boot: unable to open initial console
>          Video card/TV tuner recommendation
>          strange Cron emails?
>          RE: Linus Torvalds interview
>          Re: boot: unable to open initial console
>          Debian 2.0 and Netscape 4.5
>          Re: Was the release of Debian 2.0 put on Linux Announce?
>          Re: netinit headers
>          simple Q.
>          Re: Kernel 2.0.31 won't compile
>          dists/sid subdirectory?
>          eth0 and ppp0 routing issues
>          Re: Was the release of Debian 2.0 put on Linux Announce?
>
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>
> Subject: RE: Strange thing ...
> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 12:20:59 +0100 (WEST)
> From: Mario Filipe <mjnf@uevora.pt>
> To: Ana Graca Silva <ags@uevora.pt>
> CC: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>
> On 03-Aug-98 Ana Graca Silva wrote:
> >
> > Hello All
> > I was trying to upgrade my installation of debian, using apt. When I do
> > apt-get update it gives me the folowing output :
>
>         Really! You shouldn't do that it's dangerous!
>
> > I think the problem is with the perl version... But now I can't update
> > from dselect ... What should I do?
>
>         Update the package!
>
>         Mario Filipe
>         mjnf@uevora.pt
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> Subject: Re: Was the release of Debian 2.0 put on Linux Announce?
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 07:38:22 -0400 (EDT)
> From: jason and jill <jgreshes@netaxs.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> > other than Red Hat, Caldera, or S.u.S.E. versions of their applications.
> > Try to talk Debian to them and they dismiss it saying they just do not
> > have the time.
>
> And your solution is what?
>
> Debian jump to 6.0 and always make sure to stay a version number ahead of
> Red Hat?
>
> "Hey, Red Hat just went to 6.0, we better rewrite a mouse driver and jump
> to 7.0!!!"
>
> >From your posts, it sounds like you are saying Red Hat is jerking off with
> its version numbers, so Debian better start choking its chicken as well.
>
> Jason
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> Subject: Re: New Debian user's reaction to X
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:39:19 +0200 (MET DST)
> From: Maarten Boekhold <maartenb@dutepp2.et.tudelft.nl>
> To: Radtke <radtke@stud.fh-heilbronn.de>
> CC: Ian Lynagh <ian@lynagh.demon.co.uk>, debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Radtke wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Ian Lynagh wrote:
> > > In article <[🔎] 35C4655A.F6F26FBD@golgotha.net>, Randy Edwards
> > > <redwards@golgotha.net> writes
> > >
> > > >Debian's X installation needed a
> > > >*lot* of work.
> > > Which one?
> > > The text based one (xf86config) or the graphical one (XF86Setup)?
> >
> >       Hello all,
> >
> >  Since most half a year I am following any Debian list
> > since I was using a Debian 1.3.1 dist. Difficulties
> > came up immediately after having installed debians main
> > packages and adding X packages for getting my X
> > running. Nice dream I had. Bad reality reveals. It's
> > one BIG problem installing any package; i.e. the
> > netscape one: it required some engl. version 3.x of it.
> > Problem: no more available. Finally i got it from
> > anywhere out of hell... Then installation failed. Why ?
> > I do not know this. But discussing with others we
> > conluded that at least the dselect-'utility' isn't too
> > strong in effectivity. (It seems to be a order problem
> > even if checking dependencies) So now my answer to your
> > question: Unfortunately it is obvious to me (and
> > others) that beside the dselect-tool the x-tools need
> > some help, too. It isn't too comfortable to be useful
> > installing X, unfortunately.
>
> So, concluding, this has nothing to do with installing the X-windows
> system, but with the netscape application. I don't know where you got the
> installer for netscape3 from, but there has been an installer for netscape4
> for ages now.
>
> Maarten
>
> _____________________________________________________________________________
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> Subject: RE: Strange thing ...
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:39:43 +0200 (MET DST)
> From: Maarten Boekhold <maartenb@dutepp2.et.tudelft.nl>
> To: Mario Filipe <mjnf@uevora.pt>
> CC: Ana Graca Silva <ags@uevora.pt>,
>      debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>
> On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Mario Filipe wrote:
>
> >
> > On 03-Aug-98 Ana Graca Silva wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello All
> > > I was trying to upgrade my installation of debian, using apt. When I do
> > > apt-get update it gives me the folowing output :
> >
> >         Really! You shouldn't do that it's dangerous!
>
> Why?
>
> Maarten
>
> _____________________________________________________________________________
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> |                   Department of Electrical Engineering                    |
> |           Computer Architecture and Digital Technique section             |
> |                          M.Boekhold@et.tudelft.nl                         |
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> Subject: Re: New Debian user's reaction to X
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:48:23 +0200 (MEST)
> From: Radtke <radtke@stud.fh-heilbronn.de>
> To: M.Boekhold@et.tudelft.nl
> CC: Ian Lynagh <ian@lynagh.demon.co.uk>, debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Maarten Boekhold wrote:
>
> > So, concluding, this has nothing to do with installing the X-windows
> > system, but with the netscape application. I don't know where you got the
> > installer for netscape3 from, but there has been an installer for netscape4
> > for ages now.
> >
> > Maarten
> >
>         Thanx for immediate answer.
>
> Of course, there are newer ones. But that time I was
> not able neither to ftp or post anything since I got an
> internal modem (miro connect 34, bullshit) emulating
> com3. This was quite a big challenge I didn't master
> yet, so BTW if anyone has info about how getting
> started an internal complicated modem by Miro, please
> let me know it'd be great, great, great.
> Problem with dselect is still existent.
>
>         Nils
>
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> Subject: Going back to slackware...
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 98 13:56 MET DST
> From: "Peter Weiss" <Peter.Weiss@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> Hello,
>
>     sorry, but that debian 2.0 with the apt-package isn't quite the thing for
>     me.
>
>     I upgraded to an early pre hamm using a self burned cd round about in
>     april this year. Some packages needed a configuration afterwards. Last
>     week I did an upgrade using an official 2.0 CD with apt-get. There where
>     80 packages to be updated.
>
>     None broken! That is really boring ;-)!
>
>     No tweaking of any config files, no reboot, no complex fiddling with
>     dpkg, no dependency problems, nothing needed to be done by hand!
>
>     So, great work, congratulations!!
>
>           Peter
>
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> Subject: Re: New Debian user's reaction to X
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:24:28 +0200 (MET DST)
> From: Maarten Boekhold <maartenb@dutepp2.et.tudelft.nl>
> To: Radtke <radtke@stud.fh-heilbronn.de>
> CC: M.Boekhold@ITS.TUDelft.NL, Ian Lynagh <ian@lynagh.demon.co.uk>,
>      debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> > Of course, there are newer ones. But that time I was
> > not able neither to ftp or post anything since I got an
> > internal modem (miro connect 34, bullshit) emulating
> > com3. This was quite a big challenge I didn't master
> > yet, so BTW if anyone has info about how getting
> > started an internal complicated modem by Miro, please
> > let me know it'd be great, great, great.
>
> Unless this is a 'windows-modem', there should be no problem at all. An
> internal modem will behave exactly like an external one. You can view an
> internal modem as a normal comm-port connected to a seperate modem, but
> now all on one card (or even IC). What is your problem with it?
>
> Maarten
>
> _____________________________________________________________________________
> | TU Delft, The Netherlands, Faculty of Information Technology and Systems  |
> |                   Department of Electrical Engineering                    |
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> Subject: Re: New Debian user's reaction to X
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:29:13 +0200 (MEST)
> From: Radtke <radtke@stud.fh-heilbronn.de>
> To: M.Boekhold@et.tudelft.nl
> CC: M.Boekhold@ITS.TUDelft.NL, Ian Lynagh <ian@lynagh.demon.co.uk>,
>      debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Maarten Boekhold wrote:
> > Unless this is a 'windows-modem', there should be no problem at all. An
> > internal modem will behave exactly like an external one. You can view an
> > internal modem as a normal comm-port connected to a seperate modem, but
> > now all on one card (or even IC). What is your
> problem with it?
>
> 'til now I didn't manage it, FYI this int. modem is
> integrated on board with a soundcard.
> Perhaps u could help me by telling how to do?
>
>         Thanx,
>
>         Nils
>
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> Subject: Help with EIDE IBM Drive.
> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 07:35:19 -0500
> From: Mrpeabody <jeff@mindframe.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> Linux doesn't seem to be compatible with my hard drive can anyone help
> me.  I have a 10.1 gig Ultra ATA EIDE drive made by IBM and I don't have
> any luck installing debian or red hat.
>     -jeff
>
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> Subject: Re: boot: unable to open initial console
> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 14:58:58 +0200
> From: Dirk Bonne <dbonne@inform-ac.com>
> To: "G. Crimp" <ye416@victoria.tc.ca>
> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> G. Crimp wrote:
> >
> >         I've moved my old system over to a new hard drive.  I thought I was
> > fairly meticulous in copying things over (compared all permissions,
> > ownerships, links and other special files between the two file systems).  I
> > edited lilo.conf and fstab, then shutdown, changed the drives master/slave
> > jumpers and rebooted from the rescue floppy.
> >
> >         I used the install program to mount all the partitions and to
> > mkswap.  Next I switched to the console and copied my kernel to a floppy.
> > Evidently, I have overlooked something.  I only get through the first little
> > bit of the boot sequence (I can write out the whole thing , one screen full,
> > if anyone wants it) up to where all the partitions are named and
> >
> >         VHS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
> > then    Unable to open an initial console
> >
>
> Looks like /dev/tty0 isn't there.
>
> Are use sure you did copy the devices correctly (cp does not copy
> devices correctly, use tar or cpio).
>
> Dirk
>
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> Subject: Video card/TV tuner recommendation
> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 08:32:17 -0400
> From: Randy Edwards <redwards@golgotha.net>
> To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>
> I know this must be a FAQ, but I couldn't find it while looking.
>
> Can someone give me a recommendation for a good, fire-breathing
> Linux-supported video card and TV Tuner?  Thanks in advance.
>
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> Subject: strange Cron emails?
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:37:53 +0100 (BST)
> From: "M.C. Vernon" <mcv21@cus.cam.ac.uk>
> To: Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>
> Dear Debian People,
>
>         I have been away from my machine for about a month now (and this
> mailing list with it ;( ), and when I get back my inbox contains two types
> of message:
>
> (Apologies for the display, but this is a W95 machine :(((((
>
> Type one:
>
> Date:   Mon,    13      Jul     1998    06:54:24        +0100   (BST)
> From:   Cron    Daemon  <root@cam.ac.uk>
> To:     root@cam.ac.uk
> Subject:        Cron    <root@pick>     run-parts       --report
> /etc/cron.daily
>
> /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd:
> shell-init:     could   not     get     current directory:      getcwd:
> cannot  access  parent
> directories
>
> Type two:
>
> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:23:01 +0100 (BST)
> From: Cron Daemon <root@cam.ac.uk>
> To: mail@cam.ac.uk
> Subject: Cron <mail@pick> runq
>
> shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent
> directories
>
> Can anyone shed some light on these, please?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matthew
>
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> Subject: RE: Linus Torvalds interview
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 08:25:30 -0400
> From: Mike Barton <mike@dad.state.vt.us>
> To: 'Debian List' <debian-user@lists.debian.org>, tko@westgac3.dragon.com,
>      morpheus@calweb.com
>
> >Just to add my experiences of win95 into the frey, i have also done the
> MB
> >swap thing and while after a lot of rebooting in managed to recover, on
> the
> >other hand my bro's machine is almost identical to mine (only minor
> >differences lijke graphics card, HD make) failed miserable to survive
> the
> >same swap, it just shows that if you make any major hardware changes
> best to
> >reinstall. (apart from the fact that windows is a joke)
> ..
> Fray is right! Say, did you try an Alpha MB, Z-80 or 6809 maybe? How
> well does an Apple PPC MB swap work? Since Linux doesn't survive such
> swaps any better than anyone else, what are you writing about to begin
> with? If this is yet-another herd like MS bash, think about using IRC or
> the National Enquirer. Better yet, why not spend your time writing some
> software. Linux could use things like Delphi, Access, Excel, DBase, SQL
> Server... well you get the picture.
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> Subject: Re: boot: unable to open initial console
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 05:58:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Taren <taren@c719777-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com>
> To: dbonne@inform-ac.com (Dirk Bonne)
> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> > >         VHS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
> > > then    Unable to open an initial console
> > >
> >
> > Looks like /dev/tty0 isn't there.
> >
> > Are use sure you did copy the devices correctly (cp does not copy
> > devices correctly, use tar or cpio).
> >
> > Dirk
> >
>
> Or the permissions aren't set right.  I've found that when copying files
> from /dev, the permissions rarely stay the way they were originally
>
> Taren
>
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> Subject: Debian 2.0 and Netscape 4.5
> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 13:00:21 GMT
> From: rjlyonnais@sympatico.ca (Robert Lyonnais)
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> I just finished installing Debian 2.0. I used to have RedHat 5.1 but I
> figured it was time to try something new :-).
>
> To make a long story short, I can no longer use Netscape 4.5. When
> attempting to start this beast, I now receive the error "can't load
> library libXpm.so.4". Strange part is this file is located in
> "/usr/X11R6/lib" and that path is in my "/etc/ld.so.conf" file.
>
> Just for kicks, I did an "ldd" on netscape and I got this back;
>
> libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 (0x4000a000)
> libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libSM.so.6 (0x4004c000)
> libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6 (0x40055000)
> libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXmu.so.6 (0x4006a000)
> libXpm.so.4 => not found
> libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXext.so.6 (0x4007c000)
> libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x40087000)
> libdl.so.1 => /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40125000)
> libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40128000)
> libg++.so.27 => not found
> libstdc++.so.27 => not found
> libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x401e6000)
>
> Would anyone know what's going on?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
>
> P.S. If it makes a difference, I installed Debian 2.0 from scratch
> (i.e. my drives were clean before starting).
>
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> Subject: Re: Was the release of Debian 2.0 put on Linux Announce?
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 08:58:25 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Brandon Mitchell <bhmit1@mail.wm.edu>
> To: grep@oriole.sbay.org
> CC: Debian User Mailing List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>
> On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, George Bonser wrote:
>
> > The problem with the current versioning system is that people look at
> > Debian 2.0 and Red Hat 5.x and S.u.S.E 5.x and Slackware 3.x and figure
> > Debian is seriously lagging when it is not.
>
> <humor>
> There are two solutions to this problem:
> 1) change the next release number to 99
> 2) install windows 98
> After all, they have a higher version number, so it must be a superior
> product.
> <humor>
>
> Moral of the story, version numbers are specific to the product, don't
> bother comparing.
>
> Brandon
>
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> Subject: Re: netinit headers
> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 15:27:21 +0200
> From: Dirk Bonne <dbonne@inform-ac.com>
> To: Azog <azog@gnt.com>
> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> Azog wrote:
> >
> > Hello! I'm in need of netinet/ip_tcp.h, netinet/ip_udp.h,
> > netinet/protocols.h. Which package are these in? TIA
> >
>
> They are called tcp.h udp.h and in.h. They are in kernel-source package.
>
> Dirk
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> Subject: simple Q.
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 18:08:56 +0400 (AMT)
> From: Eugene Sevinian <sevinian@crdlx2.yerphi.am>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> HI,
> I downloaded one of the CD images and now I would like to check CHECKSUM.
> sum&cksum commands give definitly another values, not hex but decimal.
> How should I check it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eugene Sevinian
>
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> Subject: Re: Kernel 2.0.31 won't compile
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 22:44:03 +0930 (CST)
> From: Mark Phillips <mark@ist.flinders.edu.au>
> To: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@datasync.com>
> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> On 3 Aug 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
> >  Mark> I need to compile the 2.0.31 kernel.  Unfortunately there is
> >  Mark> not a debian package for the 2.0.31 kernel, so I downloaded the
> >  Mark> upstream version, unpacked it into /usr/local/src, created
> >  Mark> links
> >
> >       What links did you create? Please uncreate those links and try
> >  again, I fear that may be part of the problem.
>
> The links I created were:
>
> cd /usr/include
>
> mv asm asm.old
> mv linux linux.old
> mv scsi scsi.old
> ln -s /usr/local/src/linux-2.0.31/include/asm-i386 asm
> ln -s /usr/local/src/linux-2.0.31/include/linux linux
> ln -s /usr/local/src/linux-2.0.31/include/scsi scsi
>
> as well as
>
> cd /usr/src
>
> ln -s /usr/local/src/linux-2.0.31 linux
>
> I have also tried using make-kpkg without using the first three links
> above (ie using the existing directories) and in both cases I get the same
> compile errors.
>
> I have tried unmaking and making these links again and following again
> your instructions in /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz but I still get the
> same problems.
>
> >  Mark> and followed the instructions for make-kpkg in order to
> >  Mark> make a kernel image package.  Unfortunately it didn't compile,
> >  Mark> coming up with compile errors such as
> >
> >  Mark> /usr/include/sys/types.h:45: conflicting types for `mode_t'
> >  Mark> /usr/local/src/linux-2.0.31/include/linux/types.h:12: previous declaration
> >  Mark> of `mode_t'
> >
> >       Something is seriously wrong here. The kernel is supposed to
> >  be a self contained syste; it shpuld not be linking with any header
> >  files outside of the kernel source tree.
>
> I agree it seems seriously wrong.  It seems to be linking with header
> files provided by libc6-dev (that's where /usr/include/sys/types.h comes
> from).
>
> I am at a loss to know what to try next.
>
> I imagine gcc would only look in a place like /usr/include/sys/types.h if
> it believed the types.h file could not be found in the kernel source tree.
> (I am guessing that libc6-dev sets up /usr/include/sys as a default
> location to look for things??)  But I notice there are many "types.h"
> files in the kernel source tree, so what's going on?
>
> Mark.
>
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> Subject: dists/sid subdirectory?
> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 09:14:12 -0400
> From: Randy Edwards <redwards@golgotha.net>
> To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>
> Does anyone know what the sid subdirectory in dists is?
>
> I'm guessing that this is the follow-on version after slink, but that
> idea seemed a bit strange as slink is unstable.  Anyone know for sure?
>
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> Subject: eth0 and ppp0 routing issues
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:21:53 -0400
> From: "Frederic Breitwieser" <frederic.breitwieser@xephic.dynip.com>
> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Being new to Debian (as well as Linux in general), I've been suffering for
> a short while and was hoping you folks might be able to assist me.
>
> I have successfully installed the rescue, drivers, base 1-5 diskettes, and
> was attempting to setup the debian box to dial my ISP and download the rest
> of the system via dselect.
>
> Unfortunately, once connected, pinging "www.yahoo.com" or any other public
> address, results in the packet light on my hub to flash, which indicates
> that all of the data being routed is heading out my ethernet card (eth0)
> rather than the dial-up connection.  Internally, my network is the standard
> 172.16.x.x, and externally its whatever my ISP provides.
>
> What would be the easiest way of ensuring that 172.16.x.x addresses get
> routed through eth0, and everything else gets routed out the ppp0
> connection?  I had the same issue with debian 1.3, so obviously, its
> something I'm doing, or not doing.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> frederic.breitwieser@xephic.dynip.com
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> Subject: Re: Was the release of Debian 2.0 put on Linux Announce?
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 08:26:59 -0500 (EST)
> From: servis@purdue.edu
> To: grep@oriole.sbay.org
> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> *- George Bonser wrote about "Re: Was the release of Debian 2.0 put on Linux Announce?"
> |
> | I have had people tell me that they are using Red Hat because it is at 5.2
> | while Debian is still only at 2.0. The perception is that Red Hat is
>
> I'm sorry but those people are ignorant then. Tell them to use
> Windows98 it must be far superior to any Linux since it is at version
> 98!
>
> Jeez,
>
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> Brian
>
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You are using Netscape 4.05, not 4.5 (which is a preview release - beta). 4.05 was not
compiled with the libc6 libraries, and takes some kludging to get it to work. Netscape 4.5
preview release 1 is available in compiled form for both libc5 and libc6 libraries.


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