I am not sure what to post a bug against but tkined from the scotty package will not run properly with the new 8.0.3 tcl and tk packages in slink. The "tools" option fails to appear on the menu bar and the message "Tnm lost connection to tkined" appears on the controlling terminal. Reverted to 8.0.2 and all is well again. George Bonser The Linux "We're never going out of business" sale at an FTP site near you!