I have packaged a new diagraming program that you may have heard of on freashmeat called dia. Select new in the main file menu to get a drawing widget. Left-click on the drawing area for more options. There is no manpage yet and this is to be considered a development release. It requires gtk. ftp://ftp.shorelink.com/pub/software/ George Bonser The Linux "We're never going out of business" sale at an FTP site near you!