I got it to work, it was the fault of the HP Kayak, not the driver... Bruce Dobrin Multi Media Dept. Sony Pictures Imageworks 310-840-8412 "Never hit your Grandma with a shovel, it leaves a bad impression on her mind" -Tiny Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org