Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
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> Furthermore, saying its NOT is the documentation is just totatlly
> wrong! If you chose NOT to install the HOWTO'S or INFO,
And how would I go about doing that? I've got 5 install disks and a machine
with a modem that can only get to the net via PPP. I'd install the HOWTO's
with dselect but, you see, I can't get PPP going. See there? It's kind of
a chicken-n-egg problem.
> the PPP HOWTO?
Yes, I've read the Serial HOWTO. I've read the PPP HOWTO. I've even read the
PPP RFC. I know what IPCP does and I know what LCP does.
But I shouldn't have to.
I didn't have to read the LILO HOWTO to get my machine to boot Linux. I
didn't have to read anything about the timezone system to get the timezone
set right. I didn't have to read about "mount(1)", or "mke2fs(1)", or
"mknod(1)", or anything else like that. Oddly, the Debian install program
handled it all for me, as it should. But it's lack of any setup for PPP...
it's lack of even *mentioning* that PPP is on the system already... seems
to indicate that there was almost a conscious decision to throw the user
to the lions on this part.
> Linux, any of the distributions, comes with enough doc to keep you
> busy, and make you real smart, if you just take the time to look at
> it! Its all there man, all of it.
I'm not saying that it isn't. What I'm asking is: What percentage of the
10-30MB of documentation does a new Debian user have to read before they
are sufficiently informed to take 5 %^%*@#@ disks home and install it
on a machine that only has PPP as a way of accessing the net? 50%? 10%?
If you go to the debian home page, you'll find the link for the instaltion
guide. The guide doesn't say "Go and read these 200 choice HOWTO's". It
bascally says: "Here's how to get the disk images. Here's how to make the
diskettes. Here's how to install it. Be well and prosper.". I'd begin to
entertain the idea that I was out in left field if the install guide
even simply MENTIONED something like "Oh, if you want to use PPP, go read
this other document first...."
- Joe
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