Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
Thank you for the info. This is indeed what I was looking for. I do have
another small question. I downloaded the i386 version to a windows 95
VFAT partition. Do I need to worry about name mangling from within
dselect? Do I have to download the msdos-i386 version? I certainly hope
not.
Tom Veldhouse
veldy@visi.com
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Thomas Veldhouse wrote:
>
> > Will this be a problem if I downloaded all the packages and the install
> > directly to my hard drive? I install from a DOS partition. I should then
> > get the new FTP and telnet packages, correct? I can use dselect to choose
> > these off of my hard drive DOS partition. I just recently put debian on
> > my system, but I don't have any packages installed yet. I have been
> > toying with RedHat, but I can't get the boot disk to be created, but
> > Debian worked great in that respect. So I am going to use Debian. To
> > reiterate, my question is, will I have telnet and ftp capability when I
> > install all of the packages from my hard drive.
> >
> Sounds like a little general information would be useful here:
>
> When you install a new Debian system (rather than upgrade an old one) you
> typically start with a boot/root disk and several base disks (currently
> 4). When you are done with this "base" installation, you will have a boot
> floppy that can boot your new system, and a root file system that contains
> the bare minimum of utility to continue with the "larger" installation.
> At this point your options are varied. Dselect is the most comprehensive
> installation tool currently available. Because of it's comprehensive
> nature, new users can find it very daunting, but if you are careful, and
> read all the screens fully, take things slow, and be willing to quit and
> start over whenever you get tangled or confused, dselect can deliver a
> complete Debian installation in a reliable, repeatable fashion. I
> typically don't install the "whole thing" so I tend to use dpkg more often
> than dselect. Dpkg is the work horse for dselect. It is the package that
> actually does the installation for the collection that dselect manages.
> So, if you only need to add/upgrade a few packages at a time, dpkg is the
> best choice for the job.
>
> This brings us to: "What about all the other packages, where are they, how
> do I get them?"
> You have already (apparently) downloaded the archive to your msdos
> partition. To properly get unmangled file names you should have gotten
> them from debian/rex/msdos-i386, rather than the binary-i386 path. If you
> have also gotten a valid Packages file with that path, you are all set for
> installing the rest of Debian from your dos partition. You should be able
> to mount your dos partition with a command like: mount -t msdos /dev/hda1
> /mnt, or you can let dselect do so when you choose the hard disk method
> from the installation choices.
>
> You will notice, if you look at the contents of debian/rex/msdos-i386 (or
> binary-i386 for that matter), that there are a number of subdirectories to
> be found. The subdirectory base, contains all the packages (well, almost)
> that you will find on a set of base disks. If you are upgrading from a
> previous Debian system, it is advisable to upgrade from this directory
> first. The other directories (also known as sections) are pretty much
> organized around functional class, so you will find tools like cron in
> admin, as it is viewed as an administrative tool.
>
> What you take from this collection of packages is entirely up to you, and
> is based on your needs and interests. If you are not sure where a
> particular program might reside (which package has xxx?) you can grep the
> Contents file. This is a listing of the contents of all the packages in
> the distribution (assuming it is up to date). You can then find out more
> about that package from the Packages file (like what section it is in,
> what other packages it depends on, even a description of the packages
> intended use)
>
> As to the question of where to get it: If you did the above archival
> correctly on your dos partition, you already have it all! (with the
> exception of source) If you do a complete installation of those packages
> you will certainly have ftp, telnet, and a host of other things as well
> (both of those are found in the netstd package, in section net), and,
> although your will certainly find use for your new ftp you will not need
> it to install the full Debian system.
>
> In general you should be able to obtain a complete install with the ftp
> method in dselect. The primary source for the distribution is
> ftp.debian.org, and if that site is snowed under, it will give you a list
> of the known mirrors that you can use as alternatives.
>
> Once you have a reasonable system going, you can use mirror to maintain
> your own personal archive and keep it up-to-date with current development.
> This does, of course, require that you have sufficient disk space.
>
> You can also purchase gold CDs from either myself or I-Connect, or the
> several other producers listed at www.debian.org. Other useful info found
> on this site are the bug reports, the faqs, and, under ideal
> circumstances, actual ftp access to the archive.
>
> I am sure I have told you more than you wished/needed to know, so I hope
> there is something helpful in all this drool ;-)
>
> Luck,
>
> Dwarf
>
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