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Re: Free PageMaker-style program?



On 20 Nov 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote:

> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca> writes:
> > On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > 
> > > On 20 Nov 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Does anyone know of a DFSG-free program that works something like
> > > > Adobe PageMaker?
> > > > 
> > > > I'm kind of hoping there aren't any, because I want to write one.  :-)
> > 
> > Please, if you do, consider basing your tool on SGML. It would be most
> > usefull to see a layout/editor that can work with generic content!
> 
> That's an idea.  I'm planning to write it this way:
> 
>     1. Design a script-like language that can be used to fully specify how
>     an output page should look.  This will be the equivalent of TeX for
>     desktop publishing.  This step I am partway through with--but I'm
>     still seeking ideas.

Hm, something like that is already done. Look at the DSSSL spec, it can
completely specifiy the formatting of SGML documents
(http://www.sil.org/sgml)

>     2. Write a program that translates this output language into
>     PostScript.  This will be, I think, the easiest part of the whole
>     project--PostScript is well designed for DTP.

This isn't done, if you could write a DSSSL engine for postscript you
would be worshiped as a god :>

Unfortunately the above may not be well suited to an interactive
formatting system like pagemaker. But if you could design an interactive
DSSSL generator.. Well, lets just say -very cool- :>

> Can someone point me to the SGML language specification?  I know next
> to nothing about SGML..

Strange you should ask, I'm just finishing up a reasearch paper on the
subject here is the bibliography:

Berners-Lee, T., & Connolly, D. "RFC: 1866 Hypertext Markup Language -
2.0"
(Nov/1995) ftp://ds.internic.net/rfc/rfc1866.txt (19 Nov/1997)

Bosak, J., & Connolly, D. "W3C Activity: SGML, XML, and Structured
Document Interchange" (10 Jun/1997) http://www.w3.org/XML/Activity.html
(19
Nov/1997)

Burnard, L. "What is SGML and How Does It Help?" (19 Feb/1996)
http://sable.ox.ac.uk/ota/teiedw25/ (19 Nov/1997)

Cover, R. "The SGML/XML Web Page." (1 Nov. 1997) http://www.sil.org/sgml
(20 Nov/1997)

Davenport Group. "The Davenport Group" (13 Nov/1997)
http://www.ora.com/davenport/ (20 Nov/1997)

Debian Documentation Project. "Debian Documentation Project" (13 Nov/1997)
http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-doc/ (19 Nov/1997)

Kimber, W. "SGML: SGML and HyTime" (9 Jan/1997)
http://www.sil.org/sgml/hytimeKimber9701.html (20 Nov/1997)

Naggum, E. "SGML: Erik Naggum's Brief Description" (7 Feb/1995)
http://www.sil.org/sgml/naggumWhat.html (19 Nov/1997)

SGML Users' Group. "SGML Users' Group History." (11 Jun/1990)
http://www.sil.org/sgml/sgmlhist0.html (18 Nov/1997)

Schwarz, C. (1995). Linux Journal "Flexible Formatting with
Linuxdoc-SGML",
July 1995 Issue. Reprint at
http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-doc/linuxdoc-sgml.ps
(18 Nov/1997)

W3 Consortium. "W3C - The World Wide Web Consortium" (10 Nov/1997)
http://www.w3.org/ (19 Nov/1997)                  

Jason


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