Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!
From: Paul Wade <paulwade@greenbush.com>
> I will be running a special on 1.3.whatever_it_really_is binary CD's
> starting this weekend and continuing for at least one month. Longer if
> that's what it takes to clean this up. I will make it cheaper to get a
> 1.3.really_current binary CD than the 1.3.1 Official set. Details will be
> up at http://www.greenbush.com/ by noon tomorrow.
Of course you are welcome to do so.
> Since then, the stable ftp archive has had at least 2
> changes which warrant a DEFINITE DISTINCTION from those CD sets.
I agree. This is what the revision number should be for. This was a
procedure mistake, and the fact that the archive manager was on a
well-earned vacation probably contributed to it.
> Why? Because Debian is going to great lengths to protect a few vendors
> who made a bad decision and need to get rid of the 'dead horse' inventory.
The problem is that _any_ decision to make a mass pressing of Debian is
likely to give you remaining inventory if there is only one month of shelf
life. Your analysis of cost is only valid if we do not package the CD with
other stuff like a book. Like a _book_about_debian_. And we want that.
> Maybe the people who bought those CD sets will start thinking they've been
> fooled a bit and will hate Debian more than Microsoft.
I don't think so. The FTP update is easy. If you want up-to-the-minute on
your CD, buy from Paul Wade. We'll see who succeeds in the market.
> Dave used some strong language because he is rightfully pissed off.
Well, he'd be taken more seriously if he argued without the language.
You too.
> Those of us who actually organize CD images would be better
> off if Debian would go back to the good old numbering scheme
I'm the guy who got the complaints from all of those CDs other people
organized. That's one reason I organize one now. Another reason is because
I want those CDs to be a commodity, which makes them cheap and keeps any
one CD manufacturer from making too much profit.
> When I was asked if the 'Official CD' would hurt my business, I said it
> wouldn't because of the revision frequency of Debian. I didn't expect this
> new fuzzy numbering system to go along with it! Well, it has hurt my
> business. But don't expect me to give up and go away.
Well, it's nice to have you around, but I think you'd do best making
CD-Rs of "unstable". I sincerely believe that the stable release has
outgrown the CD-R market.
Thanks
Bruce
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