The pppd man pages say that the ip-up and ip-down scripts are executed with "standard input, output and error streams redirected to /dev/null." I would like to use these scripts, but I want them to echo messages to the console. How can I overcome this redirection to /dev/null? Bob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org . Trouble? e-mail to templin@bucknell.edu .