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Re: failure notice



On Mon, 26 May 1997, Alexander Koch wrote:

> Quoting MAILER-DAEMON@debian.novare.net (MAILER-DAEMON@debian.novare.net):
> 
> > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at debian.novare.net.
> > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
> > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
> > 
> > <debian-admintools-request@lists.debian.org>:
> > Your message was addressed incorrectly. Here is a list of all of the
> > valid addresses in the lists.debian.org domain:
> 
> > 	debian-admintool-REQUEST: request server for mailing list.
> 
> WHY THE FSCK DO I HAVE TO WRITE REQUEST IN capital LETTERS?
> 
> This is rather unusual. really unusual.
> 
> I was doing it the way it should be and it got bounced.
> Please, Peter (?), simply add an alias from -request to -REQUEST or fell
> guilty or whatever, IMO this is bad list policy.

As Ray Dassen pointed out, the mailing list that you had attempted to
subscribe to is debian-admintool, not debian-admintools.  

In comment to your statements about capital letters, I reprint information
found in the Internet Engineering Task Force's RFC 822, "Standard for ARPA
Internet Text Messages", section 3.4.7:


     3.4.7.  CASE INDEPENDENCE

        Except as noted, alphabetic strings may be represented in  any
        combination of upper and lower case.  The only syntactic units
        which requires preservation of case information are:

                    -  text
                    -  qtext
                    -  dtext
                    -  ctext
                    -  quoted-pair
                    -  local-part, except "Postmaster"

        When matching any other syntactic unit, case is to be ignored.
        For  example, the field-names "From", "FROM", "from", and even
        "FroM" are semantically equal and should all be treated ident-
        ically.

        When generating these units, any mix of upper and  lower  case
        alphabetic  characters  may  be  used.  The case shown in this
        specification is suggested for message-creating processes.


The message which you received as an autoreply is merely a script, written
to clearly delineate the difference between the mailing list and the
administrative address for that mailing list.  A fair number of messages
regularly come through on the incorrect address.  Smartlist can catch some
of them and point them in the right direction, but not all.  For the
curious, here's the script:

#!      /bin/sh
PATH="/bin:/usr/bin"
cat << EOF
Your message was addressed incorrectly. Here is a list of all of the
valid addresses in the lists.debian.org domain:
        listmaster: A human being, not a machine, your last resort.
EOF
cd /var/list
for i in */dist; do
        name=${i%%/dist}
        echo "  "$name": Mailing list."
        echo "  "$name"-REQUEST: request server for mailing list."
done
exit 100



Pete

--
Pete Templin, Debian List Administrator  listmaster@lists.debian.org



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