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Re: mime and elm (was RE: X-wm question and ZipDrive)



> On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Casper BodenCummins wrote:
> > Hamish Moffat wrote:
> > >> Couldn't you pre-filter your email with procmail and a MIME extraction
> > >> program? Maybe the packages mime-support (which `can be used to turn
> > >> virtually any mail reader program into a multimedia mail reader') or
> > >> mpack?
> > >
> > >I'd love to. But this machine is not a Debian box, it's my
> > >account at university running Solaris 5.5.1, and there's no procmail,
> > >or munpack, etc. Only metamail, which isn't very friendly.

> My solaris version of procmail is only 249k.  munpack and pine
> are also _very_ available for solaris. 

Yes, but not installed, again. What platform is that binary
from? 250k would be acceptable, I might look into it.

> > If you're using OpenWindows, the standard mail program `mailtool'
> > understands MIME. (Couldn't your admins install a system-wide copy of
> > procmail?)

That would be lovely. Unfortunately, I'm not sure it's going to 
happen any time soon (I don't think they take requests).
I'm using a character terminal (Telix for DOS to be precise),
not X/OpenWindows.

> > >True, but I see no advantage in sending absolutely plain text messages
> > >as MIME when some people (such as me) will complain. When attachments
> > 
> uuencoding.  If text is being sent, it doesn't get encoded by a
> mime mailer so I don't see what the problem is.  If I type on my

Some messages lately have been plain text sent in MIME envelopes
(not actually base64 encoded). No attachments, just the message.
For me, this means elm runs metamail instead of the usual pager,
and metamail is dreadfully unfriendly. What advantage is there
in sending a straight text message in a MIME envelope? None.
I do agree with the use of MIME for attachments, although again
the standard elm doesn't support it.

> though.  Is this header what's confusing elm?  Why don't you just
> put pine on the darned thing?  MIME is one of those "good ideas"
> that got ignored long enough that it gained credibility and
> finally is making it into main stream usage.  It would be a good
> thing to try to accomidate it.

I'd love to, but this isn't my machine and my disk quota isn't
huge (and occasionally I need my space for compiling C++ etc :-)
I might just have to relocate my reading of the list to my ISP,
who has the mime-capable elm. We don't have pine on this server either. :-(



hamish


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