Re: Θέματα με ATI κάρτα γραφικών

αφού εγκαταστήσεις τον catalyst κάνε rename τα radeon.ko και drm.ko

δεν ξέρω αν το path που βλέπεις παρακάτω είναι σε debian οκ ψάξε το..

mv /lib/modules/όνομα πυρήνα/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon.ko /lib/modules/όνομα πυρήνα/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon.ko_backup

# mv /lib/modules/όνομα πυρήνα/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm.ko /lib/modules/όνομα πυρήνα/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm.ko_backup

κάνε reboot και δες αν παίξει ο catalyst, αν όχι τα ξανα-επαναφέρεις για να εχεις radeon

To drm δεν μπορείς να το κάνεις modprobe -r γιατί το χρησιμοποιούν αυτά που βλέπεις. Δοκίμασες να κάνεις modprobe -r radeon,ttm,i915,drm_kms_helper (ίσως και αυτά να είναι used από άλλα, ξανακοίτα το output του lsmod) και μετά να προσπαθήσεις να βγάλεις τον drm ?

Ωραία θα το κοιτάξω..ευχαριστώ

Λύση: Κοίταξε :p

Λοιπόν ξαναέβαλα τους drivers από το site της ATI και πάλι τα ίδια αυτή τη φορά και με KDE το οποίο βέβαια δε κολλάει και σαν να έχει καλύτερη ανταπόκριση..

Αυτό ειναι το xorg.conf που δημιουργεί αυτόματα.

cat xorg.conf.fglrx-0
Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "aticonfig Layout"
        Screen      0 "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" 0 0
EndSection

Section "Module"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
        Option      "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
        Option      "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
        Option      "DPMS" "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
        Driver      "fglrx"
        BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0"
        Device     "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
        Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
        DefaultDepth     24
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection

και εδώ είναι το log

[ 18.277]

X.Org X Server 1.10.2

Release Date: 2011-05-28

[ 18.315] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0

[ 18.315] Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.39-1-amd64 x86_64 Debian

[ 18.315] Current Operating System: Linux Elminster 2.6.39-2-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Jun 8 11:01:04 UTC 2011 x86_64

[ 18.316] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.39-2-amd64 root=UUID=bea83156-6716-4b62-8c79-7dc904fbdf7f ro quiet

[ 18.316] Build Date: 18 June 2011 10:12:52AM

[ 18.316] xorg-server 2:1.10.2-1+wheezy1 (Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>)

[ 18.316] Current version of pixman: 0.21.8

[ 18.316] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org

to make sure that you have the latest version.

[ 18.316] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,

(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,

(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.

[ 18.316] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jun 27 18:15:05 2011

[ 18.525] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"

[ 18.525] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"

[ 18.595] (==) ServerLayout "aticonfig Layout"

[ 18.595] (**) |-->Screen "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" (0)

[ 18.595] (**) | |-->Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"

[ 18.595] (**) | |-->Device "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"

[ 18.595] (==) Automatically adding devices

[ 18.595] (==) Automatically enabling devices

[ 18.723] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.

[ 18.723] Entry deleted from font path.

[ 18.838] (==) FontPath set to:

/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,

/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,

/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,

/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,

/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,

/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,

/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType,

built-ins

[ 18.839] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"

[ 18.839] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.

If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.

[ 18.839] (II) Loader magic: 0x7d7b00

[ 18.839] (II) Module ABI versions:

[ 18.839] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4

[ 18.839] X.Org Video Driver: 10.0

[ 18.839] X.Org XInput driver : 12.2

[ 18.839] X.Org Server Extension : 5.0

[ 18.839] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:0046:103c:143a rev 2, Mem @ 0xc0000000/4194304, 0xb0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x00004050/8

[ 18.839] (--) PCI: (0:1:0:0) 1002:68e0:103c:143a rev 0, Mem @ 0xa0000000/268435456, 0xc4400000/131072, I/O @ 0x00003000/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072

[ 18.839] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)

[ 18.840] (II) "extmod" will be loaded by default.

[ 18.840] (II) "dbe" will be loaded by default.

[ 18.840] (II) "glx" will be loaded by default.

[ 18.840] (II) "record" will be loaded by default.

[ 18.840] (II) "dri" will be loaded by default.

[ 18.840] (II) "dri2" will be loaded by default.

[ 18.840] (II) LoadModule: "extmod"

[ 19.044] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so

[ 19.073] (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

[ 19.073] compiled for 1.10.2, module version = 1.0.0

[ 19.073] Module class: X.Org Server Extension

[ 19.073] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0

[ 19.073] (II) Loading extension SELinux

[ 19.073] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER

[ 19.073] (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension

[ 19.074] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA

[ 19.074] (II) Loading extension DPMS

[ 19.074] (II) Loading extension XVideo

[ 19.074] (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation

[ 19.074] (II) Loading extension X-Resource

[ 19.074] (II) LoadModule: "dbe"

[ 19.074] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so

[ 19.083] (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

[ 19.083] compiled for 1.10.2, module version = 1.0.0

[ 19.083] Module class: X.Org Server Extension

[ 19.083] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0

[ 19.083] (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER

[ 19.083] (II) LoadModule: "glx"

[ 19.126] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so

[ 19.330] (II) Module glx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."

[ 19.353] compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 1.0.0

[ 19.353] (II) Loading extension GLX

[ 19.353] (II) LoadModule: "record"

[ 19.353] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so

[ 19.379] (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

[ 19.379] compiled for 1.10.2, module version = 1.13.0

[ 19.379] Module class: X.Org Server Extension

[ 19.379] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0

[ 19.379] (II) Loading extension RECORD

[ 19.379] (II) LoadModule: "dri"

[ 19.379] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so

[ 19.495] (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

[ 19.495] compiled for 1.10.2, module version = 1.0.0

[ 19.495] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0

[ 19.495] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI

[ 19.495] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"

[ 19.495] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so

[ 19.497] (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

[ 19.497] compiled for 1.10.2, module version = 1.2.0

[ 19.497] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0

[ 19.497] (II) Loading extension DRI2

[ 19.497] (II) LoadModule: "fglrx"

[ 19.531] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so

[ 19.879] (II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."

[ 19.879] compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.86.5

[ 19.879] Module class: X.Org Video Driver

[ 19.884] (II) Loading sub module "fglrxdrm"

[ 19.884] (II) LoadModule: "fglrxdrm"

[ 19.884] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.so

[ 19.973] (II) Module fglrxdrm: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."

[ 19.973] compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.86.5

[ 19.973] (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version Identifier:8.86.5

[ 19.973] (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Release Identifier: 8.861

[ 19.973] (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: May 24 2011 22:46:53

[ 19.973] (++) using VT number 7

[ 19.980] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx

[ 20.096] (II) Loading PCS database from /etc/ati/amdpcsdb

[ 20.097] (--) Chipset Supported AMD Graphics Processor (0x68E0) found

[ 20.097] (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found

[ 20.097] (II) fglrx: intel VGA device detected, load intel driver.

[ 20.097] (II) LoadModule: "intel"

[ 20.098] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so

[ 20.138] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

[ 20.138] compiled for 1.10.1, module version = 2.15.0

[ 20.138] Module class: X.Org Video Driver

[ 20.138] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 10.0

[ 20.141] ukiDynamicMajor: failed to open /proc/ati/major

[ 20.142] (II) AMD Video driver is running on a device belonging to a group targeted for this release

[ 20.143] (II) AMD Video driver is signed

[ 20.144] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so

[ 20.144] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.so

[ 20.144] (II) fglrx(0): pEnt->device->identifier=0xd47130

[ 20.147] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so

[ 20.147] (II) intel(1): pEnt->device->identifier=(nil)

[ 20.148] (EE) Screen 1 deleted because of no matching config section.

[ 20.148] (II) UnloadModule: "intel"

[ 20.148] (II) Unloading intel

[ 20.148] (II) fglrx(0): === [xdl_xs110_atiddxPreInit] === begin

[ 20.148] (II) fglrx(0): PowerXpress: Discrete GPU is selected.

[ 20.339] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0

[ 20.339] drmOpenDevice: open result is 12, (OK)

[ 20.339] drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:00:02.0

[ 20.339] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0

[ 20.339] drmOpenDevice: open result is 12, (OK)

[ 20.339] drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 12

[ 20.339] drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:00:02.0

[ 20.339] (**) fglrx(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32

[ 20.339] (==) fglrx(0): RGB weight 888

[ 20.339] (==) fglrx(0): Default visual is TrueColor

[ 20.339] (**) fglrx(0): Option "Tiling" "off"

[ 20.339] (**) fglrx(0): Option "LinearFramebuffer" "on"

[ 20.340] (**) fglrx(0): Option "Shadow" "off"

[ 20.340] (II) fglrx(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) Arrandale

[ 20.340] (**) fglrx(0): ChipID override: 0x0046

[ 20.340] (**) fglrx(0): ChipRev override: 2

[ 20.340] (**) fglrx(0): Chipset: "Arrandale"

[ 20.340] (**) fglrx(0): Relaxed fencing enabled

[ 20.340] (**) fglrx(0): Framebuffer linear

[ 20.340] (**) fglrx(0): Pixmaps linear

[ 20.340] (**) fglrx(0): 3D buffers tiled

[ 20.340] (**) fglrx(0): SwapBuffers wait enabled

[ 20.340] (==) fglrx(0): video overlay key set to 0x101fe

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): Output LVDS1 using monitor section aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): found backlight control interface /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video1

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): Output VGA1 has no monitor section

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): EDID for output LVDS1

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): Manufacturer: LGD Model: 2ac Serial#: 0

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): Year: 2010 Week: 0

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): EDID Version: 1.3

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): Digital Display Input

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 34 vert.: 19

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): Gamma: 2.20

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): No DPMS capabilities specified

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): redX: 0.616 redY: 0.371 greenX: 0.355 greenY: 0.606

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): blueX: 0.152 blueY: 0.100 whiteX: 0.313 whiteY: 0.329

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): Supported detailed timing:

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): clock: 69.3 MHz Image Size: 344 x 194 mm

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): h_active: 1366 h_sync: 1398 h_sync_end 1430 h_blank_end 1486 h_border: 0

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): v_active: 768 v_sync: 770 v_sync_end 774 v_blanking: 782 v_border: 0

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): LG Display

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): LP156WH2-TLQB

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): EDID (in hex):

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): 00ffffffffffff0030e4ac0200000000

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): 00140103802213780ac1259d5f5b9b27

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): 19505400000001010101010101010101

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): 010101010101121b567850000e302020

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): 240058c2100000190000000000000000

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): 00000000000000000000000000fe004c

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): 4720446973706c61790a2020000000fe

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): 004c503135365748322d544c514200c1

[ 20.355] (II) fglrx(0): EDID vendor "LGD", prod id 684

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines:

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1366x768"x0.0 69.30 1366 1398 1430 1486 768 770 774 782 -hsync -vsync (46.6 kHz)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "576x432" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "680x384" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "720x450" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "800x512" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "840x525" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "960x540" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "960x600" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (doublescan mode not supported)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Printing probed modes for output LVDS1

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1366x768"x59.6 69.30 1366 1398 1430 1486 768 770 774 782 -hsync -vsync (46.6 kHz)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1360x768"x59.8 84.75 1360 1432 1568 1776 768 771 781 798 -hsync +vsync (47.7 kHz)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1360x768"x60.0 72.00 1360 1408 1440 1520 768 771 781 790 +hsync -vsync (47.4 kHz)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz)

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): EDID for output VGA1

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Output LVDS1 connected

[ 20.356] (II) fglrx(0): Output VGA1 disconnected

[ 20.357] (II) fglrx(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes

[ 20.357] (II) fglrx(0): Output LVDS1 using initial mode 1366x768

[ 20.357] (II) fglrx(0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) unless otherwise stated.

[ 20.357] (II) fglrx(0): Kernel page flipping support detected, enabling

[ 20.357] (**) fglrx(0): Display dimensions: (340, 190) mm

[ 20.357] (**) fglrx(0): DPI set to (102, 102)

[ 20.357] (II) Loading sub module "fb"

[ 20.357] (II) LoadModule: "fb"

[ 20.357] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so

[ 20.385] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

[ 20.385] compiled for 1.10.2, module version = 1.0.0

[ 20.385] ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4

[ 20.385] (II) Loading sub module "dri2"

[ 20.385] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"

[ 20.385] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so

[ 20.385] (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"

[ 20.385] compiled for 1.10.2, module version = 1.2.0

[ 20.385] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0

[ 20.385] (**) fglrx(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32

[ 20.385] (II) fglrx(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps)

[ 20.385] (==) fglrx(0): Default visual is TrueColor

[ 20.385] (**) fglrx(0): Option "DPMS" "true"

[ 20.385] (==) fglrx(0): RGB weight 888

[ 20.385] (II) fglrx(0): Using 8 bits per RGB

[ 20.386] (==) fglrx(0): Buffer Tiling is ON

[ 20.386] (II) Loading sub module "fglrxdrm"

[ 20.386] (II) LoadModule: "fglrxdrm"

[ 20.386] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.so

[ 20.386] (II) Module fglrxdrm: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."

[ 20.386] compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.86.5

[ 20.388] ukiDynamicMajor: failed to open /proc/ati/major

[ 20.388] (==) fglrx(0): NoAccel = NO

[ 20.388] (==) fglrx(0): ATI 2D Acceleration Architecture enabled

[ 20.388] (--) fglrx(0): Chipset: "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series " (Chipset = 0x68e0)

[ 20.388] (--) fglrx(0): (PciSubVendor = 0x103c, PciSubDevice = 0x143a)

[ 20.388] (==) fglrx(0): board vendor info: third party graphics adapter - NOT original ATI

[ 20.388] (--) fglrx(0): Linear framebuffer (phys) at 0xa0000000

[ 20.389] (--) fglrx(0): MMIO registers at 0xc4400000

[ 20.389] (--) fglrx(0): I/O port at 0x00003000

[ 20.389] (==) fglrx(0): ROM-BIOS at 0x000c0000

[ 20.390] (EE) fglrx(0): ACPI: DRM connection failed

[ 20.390] (II) fglrx(0): Invalid ATI BIOS from int10, the adapter is not VGA-enabled

[ 20.390] (EE) fglrx(0): Invalid video BIOS signature!

[ 20.390] (EE) fglrx(0): GetBIOSParameter failed

[ 20.390] (EE) fglrx(0): PreInitAdapter failed

[ 20.390] (EE) fglrx(0): PreInit failed

[ 20.390] (II) fglrx(0): === [xdl_xs110_atiddxPreInit] === end

[ 20.392] (II) UnloadModule: "fglrx"

[ 20.392] (II) Unloading fglrx

[ 20.392] (II) UnloadModule: "fglrxdrm"

[ 20.392] (II) Unloading fglrxdrm

[ 20.392] (II) UnloadModule: "dri2"

[ 20.392] (II) Unloading dri2

[ 20.392] (II) UnloadModule: "fb"

[ 20.392] (II) Unloading fb

[ 20.392] (II) UnloadModule: "fglrxdrm"

[ 20.392] (II) Unloading fglrxdrm

[ 20.392] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

[ 20.392]

Fatal server error:

[ 20.392] no screens found

[ 20.392]

Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support

at http://wiki.x.org

for help.

[ 20.392] Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.

[ 20.392]

Αν έκανα disable την intel που φένεται να τα δημιουργεί ολα?