RE: MUA Blues in X
Well, it does make it clear to me that i will have to embrace console base
mua's sooner then i think. Don't wanna go back to Win2K, thought it is
tempting. Still, how HARD can it be to write something decent ? That does
not require knowledge of compiler's to install and so on.
I pray some rogue genius takes it up to him/herself to create a superb MUA
for X. That will be the day i'll be smiling again.
Okay, maybe a little sooner but this is getting to me, how on earth is linux
going to rival with any Desktop-OS if it lacks these basic things. Good
Technology but very weak user-focused developments Browsers, same story. You
would not want to say mozilla/netscape is a breeze to work with would ya ?
I've never seen it work without crashing (ie on win2k does to but not as
often) Galeon seems like a good option but it a mess to install since
Mozilla seems to be too NEW ... boehoe
It's a problem with a lot of the X app's i've seen, the menu's slide down
instead of popping up.
Still, i like X AND Linux big time.
J.L.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Sarginson [mailto:cliff@raggedclown.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:19 AM
To: Joris Lambrecht; 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
Subject: Re: MUA Blues in X
> i've got the MUA blues, badly, i'm feeling slightly depressed, let down
and
> so on.
> I'm also freaking out on text-based mailclients (i know, i'm a wuzz) and
> can't find a reasonalby good X-MUA.
> Mutt, is to much of a hassle for me and lacks some feature. Pine seems
like
> really good but darn i want point-n-click.
>
>
> Balsa, crashes and has some usabiliy issues i really do mind.
> Spruce, same story. Segmentation fault after reinstall of my system.
> Evolution, would not install. /usr/bin/ld : -ldb not found
> Cronos, same story as Evolution
> Mozilla mail, oh god ! can there really exist something slower than
mozilla
> ? that crashes as often as it does ?
>
> and so on and on and on
>
> tkmail, tkrat, tried it but didn't really got thrilled.
>
> Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook
> express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen)
>
Mmm. Well all mua's are awful, just have to live with 'em !
I have never seen anything like quite like outlook...
I use KDE2, which has some bizarre behaviour (I don;t know if it is
a feature or a bug but when you trawl down a list of message headers
and delete them as you go it redraws the header list in an extremely
odd way - it drives me nuts), but is liveable with apart from that.
I find it hard to imagine what feature you require that Mutt does not have,
except point and click of course...
I deal with mail as follows.
I use mutt to very quickly review/delete/answer mail.
Mail that I want to keep or think about I leave in the spool.
Later in X I use KDE2 to file mail etc...
This is nicer in practise than it sounds in it's description..lol.
With mutt I can deal with 90% or more of the mail very quickly.
Probably doesnt help your quest, just passing it on ..
Cliff
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