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fwd: Debian sparc32 on Ultra status report (also status of debian-sparc)



Steve,

Please contact me with your progress. Our Debian UltraLinux developers 
have decided to go for two-step approach. Rather than working with
a hybrid RedHat based UltraPenguin system, we'd rather start with a
Debian counterpart of UltraPenguin which is also 32-bit now. Most 
developers are happy working toward a 64-bit platform from a pure
32-bit Debian/sparc system.

I will get an UltraSPARC AXi based system back on Wednesday so I can
work on installation too.

I will also help on provide FTP space for your packages. If your 
Ultra-5 does not have enough space or resources to build packages,
please use our xia01 and xia03.

I will also help working on a web page to provide recent progress and
how-tos on Debian installing on Ultras.

I have a question though to Debian/Sparc team. Because one of our
publically available system, xia02 which was an ancient SPARCstation 1+
with 16MB RAM, is too slow for any development work, Kachina has
purchased a SPARCstation LX with 64MB RAM for Debian Project. We
intended to install it with the latest 32-bit Debian system. However,
last week I tried, the tftpboot image is still dated June. Even worse,
most packages were missing so dselect simply cannot continue. I knew Eric
has come up a new version and I saw some new packages have been uploaded.
What is the status of the 32-bit SPARC Debian distribution? Why is linked
in "sid" from "potato?"

I installed sucessfully from "hamm" in July although I had to use floppies
together with the tftpboot image booted from net. 

Thanks,

--ward

Ward Deng, Ph.D                   |  Kachina Technologies, Inc.
Vice President and COO            |  PO Box 9307
Tel: 505-888-5934                 |  Albuquerque NM 87119
Fax: 505-888-5902                 |  info@KachinaTech.COM
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:07:26 -0500
From: Nils Lohner <lohner@typhoon.icd.teradyne.com>
To: debian-ultralinux@lists.debian.org
Cc: Steve Dunham <dunham@cse.msu.edu>
Subject: fwd: Debian sparc32 on Ultra status report
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Steve posted this but got the ultra list wrong, so I'm forwarding it.  I'll 
be unable to work on the ultra from Dec 18-Jan 04, maybe by then Steve will 
have something.  _That_ would be a nice xmas present :)

Nils.

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Subject: Debian sparc32 on Ultra status report
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From: Steve Dunham <dunham@cse.msu.edu>
Date: 14 Dec 1998 15:01:45 -0500
In-Reply-To: Christian Meder's message of "Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:51:37 +0100"
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FYI:  (I'm not even sure if anyone cares, but...)

My two class projects were finished last week, so I had some more time
to look into my attempt to install Debian sparc on an Ultra5.

You'll recall that I managed to get the sparc32 Debian on an Ultra5 by
using a kernel and modutils from "UltraPenguin".  The needed bits were
posted to my web site.


This weekend I continued the project by building XF86_Mach64.  I
downloaded XFree 3.3.3 and applied the "sparc" and "ffb" patches from
the UltraPenguin package.  (Apparently the latest UltraPenguin
includes the _register_frame_info bug as a compatibility feature with
RedHat... go figure.)  Aside from having to fix a few rejected patches
and construct a XF86Config file, it worked flawlessly.


I've also built a binutils that works with both sparc32 and sparc64
(it seems the trick was to compile binutils with egcs - if compiled
with gcc it won't link 32-bit code - the UP spec file said something
about a bug involving "long long" in gcc 2.7.x.)  In conjunction with
an "alien"ed copy of egcs64 from UltraPenguin, I successfully built a
64-bit kernel under Debian (cvs 2.1.130).


Right now I'm building some of the missing general packages (like a
recent icewm, gtk, etc), so I can switch to the Ultra5 as my primary
machine and pass the intel machine to a coworker.  Afterwards, I will
start work on packaging the Ultra stuff up.  (Modutils, binutils,
egcs64, X servers, tilo, and kernel.)

By the time sparc32 Debian is released with slink, or very soon
thereafter, I should have an unofficial addon ready to make everything
work on the Ultras which is as easy to install as the sparc32
distribution.  (I'm aiming towards something that works on both, like
UltraPenguin.)  Eventually, I'd like to get the patched binutils and
modutils into the official sparc distribution.


I just wanted to let people know that it is possible, and that I'm
within a few weeks of posting packages and a few simple instructions
on how to install Debian on an UltraSparc.


I would be interested in knowing if anyone else is interested in this
or is running Debian on an UltraSparc.  (It's my impression that the
debian-ultrasparc project is aiming towards a 64-bit userland, which
is a ways off.)


Steve
dunham@cse.msu.edu


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