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Bug#688845: texlive-fonts-extra: Please demote all additional Depends to Recommends



Am 14.01.2013 12:52, schrieb Norbert Preining:
On Fr, 11 Jan 2013, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
Could this please get implemented in the next upload? It is an annoyance
that I am forced to install a dozen additional font packages just because
I want to use "fourier" in my LaTeX documents.

Could you please recognize that packaging TeX Live is not as easy as
task as you might imagine.

Did you check that *none* of the other files distributed by TeX Live
in the texlive-fonts-extra package require any of the font packages
that it depends on?

It is already a service to the users that we package and split TeX LIve
into smaller collections. I could have gone forth and just package
*ONE* package "texlive" which ships all the 2Gb ...

So please understand, that for implementing this there are a lot of
checks to be done, and instead of writing angry emails one could
help instead.

Hi Norbert,

it seems that my mail sounded a lot more angry than it was meant to. Actually, it wasn't meant to sound angry at all. I just wanted to get some feedback for my complaint, like "Yes, we are considering this" or "No, this won't happen, because...". I did not mean to offend anyone and feel sorry I did so.

Now, replying to your paragraphs:

> Could you please recognize that packaging TeX Live is not as easy as
> task as you might imagine.

Yes, I know that this is a complicated matter from my own short experiments with tex-gyre, lmodern and some other packages.

> Did you check that *none* of the other files distributed by TeX Live
> in the texlive-fonts-extra package require any of the font packages
> that it depends on?

No, and I am even sure that some other files in texlive-fonts-extra *do* require some of the fonts that it depends on. But I think that it can be expected from users --if they want to use a font from texlive-fonts-extra in TeX-- to make sure to install that actual font package as well. Furthermore, recommended packages will be installed alongside t-f-e by default; the main difference being that it's allowed to remove them without having to remove t-f-e as well.

> It is already a service to the users that we package and split TeX LIve
> into smaller collections. I could have gone forth and just package
> *ONE* package "texlive" which ships all the 2Gb ...

I know that the current packaging is a great service and I appreciate it. It is just that I currently work on a LaTeX document on three different systems and had to install the huge t-f-e package on all three just because I decided to use one font that happened to be in there. And I have not yet received any constructive feedback to my complaint, that's why I wrote this other mail...

No hard feelings, honestly!

 - Fabian


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