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Bug#473216: texlive-latex-extra: foilhtml.sty undistributable?



On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:54:30 +0200 Frank Küster wrote:

> Francesco Poli <frx@firenze.linux.it> wrote:
[...]
> > It really should be copied into debian/copyright files, as mandated by
> > Debian Policy.
> 
> Yes, and we should switch the copyright file from our own invented
> format to the consensus machine-readable format - we create it
> automatically, anyway.

OK, we seem to agree here.
And I understand it's a non-trivial task: I hope it can be done, sooner
or later...

> 
> > Apart from this, I cannot fully understand your objection, anyway.
> > Do you mean that the LPPL has a definition of source that does not
> > allow changing its form?
> 
> If you want to discuss specific aspects of the LPPL, I think you'd
> better 
> 
> - read it carefully first

Fair enough.

> 
> - read the (quite lengthy) discussions on debian-legal about it

I am a debian-legal regular since 2004; however it seems that most
discussions about the drafting of LPPL v1.3 were held before I began
following the list.  The only one I did quickly read (without actively
taking part) starts here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/07/msg00079.html

I should really manage to find the time to take a look at the previous
discussions...  :-(

> 
> - discuss it with people who are interested in that, e.g. on
>   debian-legal.

Once again, fair enough.

> 
>   Myself, I just take it for granted that a license which has been
>   drafted together by the LaTeX team and some debian-legal regulars, and
>   been reviewed and finally approved on that list, is DFSG-free. And I
>   have no interest in discussing this; we have indeed more severe
>   licensing problems in texlive; the woeful copyright file is just a
>   symptom of that.

I can understand your point of view.

> 
> >> Of course, if you apply the same patch, including versin information, to
> >> both files and don't recreate the generated file, no one can prove that
> >> you didn't abide by the wording of the license, and for sure you did
> >> follow the spirit.
> >
> > What if my preferred form for making modifications to foilhtml.sty is
> > *really* the .sty format, rather than its original source?
> > I mean, what if I *honestly* prefer modifying the .sty file directly?
> 
> That sounds to me a bit like the "What if I prefer to modify the
> Postscript file directly?" argument which has for sure been brought up
> when people recommended the GPL, a source-aware license, for
> documentation.

Exactly, and the answer is: the GNU GPL *allows* you to start modifying
the Postscript code directly and treat it as source.  Because it
actually *becomes* source, as soon as you start modifying it directly:
it's the preferred form for making further modifications to your
modified version of the document!


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