Hello Frank, scratch my last e-mail, it was premature. I found out, that errors from programms started via menus are printend on stdout/stderr (which I did not see previously, as X has become very chatty since X.org 7). So my results are (2.6.10 without, 2.6.14 with grsec): Kernel Invocation Observation 2.6.10 in xterm does not seem to crash 2.6.10 from menu Always crashes, always same glibc-address (even after X shutdown and new start) 0x0000000000ef39a0 2.6.14 in xterm Crashes roughly 50% of the time, always different address, crash less likly if started succesfully already (i.e. in a row, once an instance actually started) 2.6.14 from menu Except one attempt always crashes but different glibc-adress each time: 0x0000000000eff0d0 0x0000000000ef7bf0 0x0000000000ef6bf0 0x0000000000efdf40 0x0000000000efe6e0 0x0000000000efcad0 0x0000000000efc2a0 0x0000000000efa5f0 Of course, I did not run any statistics, so the numbers are not accurate, i.e. the succesfull launch from the menu just happend during the last test (I tried this yesterday quite a few times already, always without success). The reason the addresses are different in 2.6.14 probably *is* grsec specific (due to memory randomization). So looking at the above data from 2.6.10, there is a bug in texshow, just that grsec sometimes (seldom) hides it, approx. 50% of the time hits it (where command line execution is involved). Can you launch texshow reliably from the menu entry? (If you are not on an 64bit machine, or more precisely a amd64, maybe we can ask on the amd64 list for other oppinions). If you think 2.6.14 could be an additional cause, I could run a few tests with 2.6.11 (also with grsec). No, I cannot test a stock Debian kernel, because it depends on udev which I do not want at this time (due to the strong interlink with the kernel version). Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann debian@helgefjell.de Dipl.-Phys. http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php 64bit GNU powered gpg signed mail preferred Help keep free software "libre": http://www.ffii.de/
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