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Bug#225833: Letter vs A4 again



Hi Greg, please stay reasonable.

On 15 May 2006 17:14:34 -0400, Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu> wrote:

> What would you do with my "portable" document written for letter paper if all
> you have is A4 paper?

It's a bit unclear for me what you are really asking but generally 
it's no problem for me.

> Really, arguing that your bug is a feature is just unsightly. If what you

I guess it's more than a feature but a design (or philosophy?) of
TeX.  If fact, in a sense, one could say that there is no notion
of so-called papersize in TeX itself (of course there is in printer 
driver like dvips).

On 15 May 2006 13:35:49 -0400, Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu> wrote:

> You
> would prefer eliminating /etc/papersize and having every package have its own
> configuration? Or having the user have to set the paper size on every document?

It's clear for me that Frank didn't say such things.

TeX is definitely not a system which can be explained with
debconf note (or something) nor can be used only by installing
tetex packages but need some learnings.

I only try to suggest some explanation to help a user who wonder
why /etc/papersize doesn't work for TeX by misunderstanding ;-)
and I think Ralf's proposal is good (at least good starting point).

On Mon, 15 May 2006 09:35:20 +0200, Ralf Stubner wrote:

> I could imagine some smaller changes, though:
> 
> . tetex-bin, README.Debian, '2.1.3. What is configured where?':
>   Mention default paper size as one of the things configured via
>   texconfig(-sys).
> 
> . NEWS.Debian: besides updmap-sys and fmtutil-sys also metion
>   texconfig-sys. Refer to TETEXDOC for the upstream release notes. 
>   [I don't know how to do this properly, since NEWS.Debian already
>   contains a part 'NEWS in teTeX version 3.0'. Can we change that part?
>   Add a 'Further NEWS in teTeX version 3.0' part?]
> 
> . Maybe add a part 'What is not documented here' to tetex-bin's
>   README.Debian: 
>     - (La)TeX usage (mention TeX FAQ and the introductions in there)
>     - teTeX in general (refer to TETEXDOC)

also I think 

On Mon, 15 May 2006 18:51:59 +0200, Frank Küster wrote:

> A program that is designed to handle different paper sizes on
> a document-per-document basis should not assume some system-wide
> default.  This will only confuse things.  

this kind of generic explanation of TeX would be also necessary.


Regards,			2006-5-16(Tue)



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