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Bug#265590: tetex-base should suggest tetex-doc, not recommend



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On 16-08-2004 13:45, Frank Küster wrote:
| Hilmar Preusse <hille42@web.de> wrote:
|
|
|>On 13.08.04 Jonas Smedegaard (dr@jones.dk) wrote:
|>
|>
|>>tetex-doc seems from the description to be in the latter category
|>>(as is the case with most -doc packages).
|>>
|>
|>The texmf-tree is delivered from upstream as one tar ball. It
|>includes everything excluding the sources of the texmf tree. So the
|>doc is in reality a part of the texmf tree. We put it into an extra
|>package cause (e.g.) an autobilder don't need texmf doc.
|>There is at least one member of de.comp.text.tex, who got over and
|>over questions from Debian users, just cause they didn't read the
|>docs. Therefore we decided to make tetex-doc do be Recommend instead
|>of Suggest.
|
|
| To put it in other words: If you only want to process documents that
| others deliver to you, like autobuilders do, you don't need
| tetex-doc. For any other use of TeX, for anyone writing, changing or
| updating documents, tetex-doc is a must.
|
| TeX does not have a GUI and thus no "help" menu, but it has some nice
| on-line help functions nowadays, delivered by tetex-bin. These will fail
| to work if tetex-doc is not installed. Any program with a "help" button
| will include it's help files in the package, or a depended-on,
| architecture independent *-doc/-common package. We need not really
| depend on it, but only suggests is clearly too low IMO.

Thanks for the detailed response, Hilmar - and the clarification, Frank.

I understand now that I was wrong in my comparison with other -doc packages.

Too bad, though: I never use tetex directly. It is pulled in by GUI
packages using tetex scripts as backends (I assume). I imagine lots of
people use tetex that way, so it would be nice to not be forced to have
the documentation installed (nicely integrated with the tools or not).
Suggestion: Add a meta package simply called tetex, which depends on
tetex tools and doxcumentaion. You can then ask people to install tetex
for a complete tetex environment (including socumentation), and people
only interested in tetex as backend can avoid the bloat without messing
with equivs.


I will leave this bug open and (at a minimum) suggest that the
clarification (the past block by Frank is fine IMHO) is added to the
long description of both tetex-base and tetex-doc.


Kind regards,

~ - Jonas

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* Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt
* Tlf.: +45 40843136  Website: http://dr.jones.dk/

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