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Bug#310801: marked as done ([Release notes] no working aptitude on woody hppa/mips/mipsel)



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From: Ewen McNeill <ewen@naos.co.nz>
Subject: Failed: mips(el) (cobalt): no aptitude package in woody for mips(el)
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Package: upgrade-reports

[NOTE: This duplicates some information in report #310005; I'm
still filing as a separate bug because I think the specific issue
(aptitude missing in woody for mips(el)) is sigificant enough to warrant
separate attention.  Feel free to close this bug if/when issue raised
in this/#310005 are addressed somehow -- even if it's just duplicating the
recommended approach from #310005 into the mips(el) Sarge release notes.]


Archive date: Wed May 25 19:00:01 UTC 2005
Upgrade date: 2005/05/26 16:00:00 +1200
uname -a: Linux cobalt-linux 2.4.26 #2 Tue Apr 27 13:29:20 NZST 2004 mips unknown
Method: Attempted to upgrade with aptitude following instructions here
http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/mipsel/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html


Unfortunately I didn't get very far with my attempt to upgrade my 
Cobalt box (running Debian Linux, Woody, installed following Paul
Martin's instructions from a few years ago).

One of the first instructions (after "make a backup") is:

-=- cut here -=-
First the aptitude package needs to be installed. This is done with:

     apt-get install aptitude

Provided that you have a working APT configuration this will install the woody version of aptitude. 
-=- cut here -=-

Unfortunately this isn't possible on a mips(el) architecture.  

-=- cut here -=-
ewen@cobalt-linux:~$ sudo apt-get install aptitude
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package aptitude
ewen@cobalt-linux:~$ 
-=- cut here -=-

There is no aptitude package for mips prior to the 0.2.15.9-2 (from Sarge).
Eg, from ftp.debian.org:

-=- cut here -=-
ftp> cd debian/pool/main
250 Directory successfully changed.
ftp> cd a/aptitude
250 Directory successfully changed.
ftp> ls *mips*
200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
150 Here comes the directory listing.
-rw-rw-r--    1 1176     1176      1932216 Apr 09 18:47 aptitude_0.2.15.9-2_mips.deb
-rw-rw-r--    1 1176     1176      1922778 Apr 07 18:32 aptitude_0.2.15.9-2_mipsel.deb
226 Directory send OK.
-=- cut here -=-

Version in Woody on, eg, i386 is 

-=- cut here -=-
ewen@basilica:~ $ apt-cache show aptitude | grep Version
Version: 0.2.11.1-4
-=- cut here -=-

At a guess that is due to bug #84935 ("g++ fails to compile aptitude on
the mips architecture"), which is marked as Normal/Resolved, as of
a month ago.

Apparently not resolved in time to get a version into Woody, even with
the most recent Debian Woody minor-release (which IIRC did include an
aptitude update in order to make Woody->Sarge updates easier; but not
for mips(el) it seems).

I see there is one last Debian Woody mini-release planned:

http://people.debian.org/~joey/3.0r6/

but it doesn't include aptitude at this stage.

It seems to me that either:
(a) aptitude should be built for Woody on all Sarge architectures, and
    included in 3.0r6; or

(b) on those architectures where aptitude isn't available (ie, mips(el))
    the release notes should provide alternative instructions on 
    upgrading (eg, using apt-get cautiously, or perhaps doing enough
    of the upgrade to pull in aptitude from Sarge then using aptitude).

I'm sure that I can figure out some way to upgrade this system to Sarge
even if neither of those are done (I've backported enough packages myself
for one thing; and done Debian upgrades since Bo without using aptitude),
but in the interests of accurate documention it seems something worth
addressing.

Ewen

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Subject: Re: Failed: mips(el) (cobalt): no aptitude package in woody for mips(el)
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On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 04:35:30PM +1200, Ewen McNeill wrote:
> (b) on those architectures where aptitude isn't available (ie, mips(el))
>     the release notes should provide alternative instructions on 
>     upgrading (eg, using apt-get cautiously, or perhaps doing enough
>     of the upgrade to pull in aptitude from Sarge then using aptitude).

Frans Pop has changed the release notes to follow your suggestions:
-------------------------------
4.5.1 Updating the package list

First the list of available packages for the new release needs to be fetched. This is done by executing[2]:

     # apt-get update

4.5.2 Upgrading aptitude

Upgrade tests have shown that sarge's version of aptitude is better at solving the complex dependencies during an upgrade than either apt-get or woody's aptitude. It should therefore be installed first using:

     # apt-get install aptitude

aptitude will show you a list of the changes that will be made and ask you to confirm them. You should take a careful look at the proposed changes, especially packages that will be removed by the upgrade, before you confirm. 
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so I am closing this bug.

Thanks again for your report, report from upgrade on less mainstream
architectures are very valuable to us.
-- 
Bill. <ballombe@debian.org>

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