Ok, for some reason, BTS keeps bouncing my lists. They are at http://astronut.hopto.org/packages.woody and http://astronut.hopto.org/packages.sarge. If they have any problems, it's most likely my system, I got hit by lightning, and some things are still screwed up. (Anyone have a cheap switch for sale? ;-)). Let me know what tests you need, as I said, I have copies of both systems. astronut