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Bug#196293: installation-reports: trying debian-installer (2003-06-04)



tor 2003-06-05 klockan 23.35 skrev Henning Meier-Geinitz:
> I'm a debian-installer novice but have some experience in installing older
> Debian systems. I'm trying this installation from the user perspective without
> reading too much documentation. So I may miss some basic stufff. Anyway, here
> are my experiences:

What documentation? ;)

> The first thing I found a bit strange is that if you want to choose the
> language you get the question about debconf priority first. Well, I know the
> background but the "normal" user who wants to install Debian will have no idea
> what debconf is and be confused to get that question when he just wants to get
> the setup in his native language.

Yes, we are aware of this. I don't really have a good solution, other
than moving the question to a different package, that languagechooser
doesn't depend on. cdebconf-priority or something, perhaps.

> I selected German (Germany) as language. The German Umlauts don't work. Some
> are just not printed, some look like UTF8 on non UTF-8 aware consoles.

Indeed, the Unicode support is sketchy at best right now.

> I need the rtl8139 kernel module wich doesn't seem to be available on the
> CD. I'm asked for a driver disk which I find a bit confusing when booting from
> a CD that should contain all the drivers. So no network on this machine...

As you noted in the other mail, the module is called 8139too in 2.4,
this problem will go away when we've finished migrating to discover 2.

> The installation program prints '{MODULE}' and '{CARDNAME}' literally. I guess
> these are variables that should be expanded?

Hrrm, yes. That should work. Strange. Can't say I've seen that fail...

> Some of the descriptions of the installer modules are longer than 80 chars,
> especially if they are selected. The first few scroll off the screen. Not
> everyone knows Shift-PgUP...

Yeah, this is a cdebconf text frontend issue. I'm not sure I want to
waste time fixing it if we're not going to use it later, and I don't
know if we're going to use it later. The newt frontend deals with this
better. (But we don't want to use it yet, as it may hide debug output
from programs)

> ide-scsi is tried to load but fails (probably because the IDE CDROM is already
> claimed by the IDE CDROM driver?)

Dunno, I haven't had any problems... Hm. CC:ing Petter who's written the
hardware detection udebs. Petter, any ideas?

> Now I tried to "configure and mount partitions". After I selected one
> partition for an ext2 fs and one for swap, I got "Can't open
> mkfs.ext2". "Create filesystems (OLD) also bailed out (no error message).

Veeerry strange! Since it offers ext2 as a choice, that means that
a) ext2 is in /proc/filesystems, and
b) /sbin/mkfs.ext2 exists

> So no new fs on my hard disk.
> 
> I wanted to save /proc/pci, partition info etc. on a floppy, but a mount
> /floppy failed. Looks like it couldn't detect the filesystem on the disk
> (probably msdos?)

I haven't had any problems with this either... Couldn't you just say
mount -tmsdos?

> As I didn't have any more options I wanted to stop the installation. But there
> is no menu item for that kind of action :-) And pressing ctrl-al-del is also
> blocked.

The ctrl-alt-del issue should be fixed by now, at least in CVS. I think.


/Martin
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