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Bug#186283: netinst cd problems (march24th sarge image)



mån 2003-04-28 klockan 21.48 skrev Drew Scott Daniels:
> On 25 Apr 2003, Martin [ISO-8859-1] Sjögren wrote:
> 
> > fre 2003-04-25 klockan 22.18 skrev Drew Scott Daniels:
> > > Using today's image... choosing net at boot...
> >
> > If I may ask, why? That'll just get you an outdated net-1440 image. The
> > default image, the cdrom image, is what's interesting on a
> > businesscard/netinst image, that'll set up d-i from the CD and then do
> > the rest from the net (actually, netinst will install base from the CD
> > too)
> >
> Arbitrarily. Would you recomend that I start using cdrom for testing then?

Yes, I would recommend that you just press enter on the prompt. Booting
'net' is no different from using the net floppy. Which you're free to
do, of course, but I don't see the reason for using a CD for it. :)

> > > > ons 2003-04-23 klockan 16.54 skrev Drew Scott Daniels:
> > Sorry, it wasn't meant as a flame, I just happen to think that bochs is
> > slow and that optimizing an installer for speed on bochs is low
> > priority.
> >
> Np, I was trying to point out that it *might* be a problem for slower
> computers too.

Actually, Bastian Blank identified a problem in udpkg that was kinda
stupid (the .list files were generated over and over again), anna runs
waaaay faster now. :)

> > > with 16mb of ram later... I was looking to this and noting that most of
> > > the rest of the install was reasonably fast except for this part.
> >
> > That IS a problem. If nothing else, then for ramdisk size. Check df, the
> > ramdisk is pretty big.
> >
> 24MB iirc... Hmm this might be something that needs to be worked on or at
> least looked at... Perhaps not until later as most modern systems have
> 32MB+. Out of curiousity, what did the old boot-floppies require? I seem
> to recall it could occationally install on systems with 8MB of RAM.

We don't use all the 24M, but we do use something like 10M, so I think
we're going to have to demand 16M+ of memory in the computers we install
on. b-f got away with a lot less since it was monolithic, one big
program.

> > Any suggestion for improvement in anna's template description is
> > welcome. I'm planning on expanding the choices in the list with whatever
> > will be installed automatically (them all being default to yes of
> > course), so a nitpick can remove the ones they don't like, and in any
> > case, it'll be a lot more visible that things are actually going to be
> > installed. However, I think that question is very scary for a first time
> > user, and for anyone installing from CD or a decent net connection, the
> > default *should be fine*. I.e. a nitpick should pick debconf priority
> > low. Any ideas?
> >
> I usualy do pick priority low and I usualy end up happily picking the
> defaults. I think it would be nice to have the ability to exclude certain
> "downloads". It might also be nice to see why packages were selected
> somehow to help the "experts".

As I said, I intend to change anna so that the list of packages also
contain the ones that are now installed automatically, and move the
question to priority low. That way, I hope both nitpick experts and
scared newbies will be happy. :)


/Martin
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