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Bug#314645: /usr/sbin/sshd: time delay of password check proves account existence to attackers



On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 12:51 -0400, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 09:14:04AM -0700, Greg Webster wrote:
> > Package: ssh
> > Version: 1:3.8.1p1-8.sarge.4
> > Severity: critical
> > File: /usr/sbin/sshd
> > Tags: security
> > Justification: root security hole
> > 
> > Due to the delay that is caused by password checking, once ssh
> > determines that the login attempt is for a valid account, attackers can
> > statistically prove the existence of accounts on a ssh-accessible server
> > remotely. This cuts down greatly on the difficulty of a brute-force
> > password-guessing attack. Since user accounts often use worse patterns
> > than (hopefully) root does, it doesn't take much to pick user accounts
> > that are other than standard accounts and attempt to break in.
> You're talking about microsecond delays, right?

Nope...human-discernable delays. Give it a shot on your system. I can
easily determine just by mentally counting, if an account is valid.

> > I'd strongly suggest either a randomized delay on responses for login
> > attempts on non-existent accounts, or a consistent delay between
> > existing and non-existent accounts, or some other method of hiding this
> > information.
> Didn't this get implemented?  I recall hearing about this some time
> ago (~18 months?), probably on one of the Debian lists.

Don't think so. I've noted this behaviour on 8 internet-facing servers
now, with fully updated ssh packages (the system I sent this from was my
own workstation, which does have the problem, but is behind a few levels
of firewall...I should probably have sent it from one of the affected
machines).

> > This attack is already in the wild, as shown in logs:
> This doesn't seem to indicate any particular attack.  I don't know if
> there's any evidence that its doing anything other than sshing to
> $user:$user@yourmachine.  (Though there is no evidence to support my
> claim, either.  It would be interesting to force the use of password
> authentication, rather than challenge-response, to see what password
> is being used.  Takers?). 

Definitely would be a good test...I'd like to see someone validate what
I've been seeing.

Thanks,

Greg

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Greg Webster  -  System Administrator
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