Hi all, Both these problems are due to a bug in the latest makedev, 2.3.1-67. http://bugs.debian.org/245735 Downgrade to makedev_2.3.1-66 and put a hold on it, or fiddle with your system and ``chmod 666 /dev/tty''. I supposed that these should be merged with #245735, but I wouldn't rush to move them off bugs.d.o/ssh or the vacuum will quickly be filled. Kirk