Re: Planned obsolescence ? (*BSD, Rust)
- To: Jan-Daniel Kaplanski <jd.kaplanski@aol.de>
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- Subject: Re: Planned obsolescence ? (*BSD, Rust)
- From: David Starner <prosfilaes@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2025 17:19:25 -0600
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On Mon, Nov 3, 2025 at 4:20 PM Jan-Daniel Kaplanski <jd.kaplanski@aol.de> wrote:
>
> > Yes, 20 year old hardware is looking ancient and retro.
> To specify, I was refering to x86-64-v1 hw when I said "reasonably large
> amount of users".
Which works just fine with Rust. It's strictly unhelpful to confound
the two issues.
> > There is no practical reason to use Linux on any of those [...]
> Except for homelabers, in enterprise environments (legacy software!) or
> lab environments (specialised hardware peripherals), etc.
In what cases would you use Linux on any of the four systems I
mentioned for legacy software or specialized hardware peripherals? As
for homelabers, yes, it's fun to make an old Mac run Linux/m68k, but
that doesn't mean it's practical.
> > a Pi 5 soundly beats any of those systems ever made
> And a Threadripper PRO 9995WX based system soundly beats any Pi 5. So
> going by your logic there isn't a practical reason to run Linux on a Pi
> 5, because there is a more capable system out there. That logic isn't
> very sound, yk?
No, a Threadripper PRO 9995WX is way more expensive than a Pi 5, it
draws way more power, it's way louder and takes way more space. You
will save the cost of the Raspberry Pi in a year on electrical costs
alone. There is no practical reason to run Linux on HPPA or Alpha or
SH4 or m68k.
> That only means that in the future you'd have to have a highly
> specialised Rust-dev team in any major OS-related project. And for what
> purpose? Just because everyone does it.
Is this just a grousing session?
--
The standard is written in English . If you have trouble understanding
a particular section, read it again and again and again . . . Sit up
straight. Eat your vegetables. Do not mumble. -- _Pascal_, ISO 7185
(1991)
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