Re: Bug#645881: critical update 29 available
- To: Matthias Klose <doko@ubuntu.com>
- Cc: Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>, debian-release@lists.debian.org, Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org>, Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>, drazzib@debian.org, twerner@debian.org, team@security.debian.org, 645881@bugs.debian.org, Sylvestre Ledru <sylvestre@debian.org>, debian-security@lists.debian.org
- Subject: Re: Bug#645881: critical update 29 available
- From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
- Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:01:51 +0100
- Message-id: <[🔎] 87zkeylvww.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>
- In-reply-to: <[🔎] 4EE4D0AD.4080201@ubuntu.com> (Matthias Klose's message of "Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:47:57 +0100")
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* Matthias Klose:
> On 12/11/2011 01:07 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Sonntag, 11. Dezember 2011, Philipp Kern wrote:
>>> sorry, but I'd rather like to have an announcement that it has a bug,
>>
>> me too, for all the reasons Philipp noted.
>>
>> It's also trivial to download the fixed jdk from oracle and build a fixed
>> package, so IMHO an announcement containing these information plus no
>> removal would be best:
>
> the DLJ bundles were created because you are not allowed to re-distribute the
> jdk packages from oracle. Did that change recently?
The main difference seems to be this (DLJ first):
| [...] Sun also grants you a non-exclusive, non-transferable,
| royalty-free limited license to reproduce and distribute the
| Software [...] provided that: (b) the Software is distributed with
| your Operating System, and such distribution is solely for the
| purposes of running Programs under the control of your Operating
| System and designing, developing and testing Programs to be run
| under the control of your Operating System; [...]
| [...] Oracle grants you a non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited
| license without fees to reproduce and distribute the Software,
| provided that (i) you distribute the Software complete and
| unmodified and only bundled as part of, and for the sole purpose of
| running, your Programs, [...]
Other problematic clauses (indemnification, no bundling with
reimplementatiosn of java.* classes and so on) are also part of the
DLJ.
(I still don't understand why the DLJ was suitable for non-free, so
I'm clearly not qualified to judge these license matters for Debian.)
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